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Thread: Fiona Hill Tells The Nation They’ve Been Lied to By Trump and The GOP

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    "I now recall speaking individually with Mr Yermak [aide to the Ukrainian president] where I said resumption of US aid would likely not occur until Ukraine provided the public anti-corruption statement that we had been discussing for many weeks" - Sondland.

    https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-50310695

    I guess the aide didn't tell the foreign minister.
    What part of "PUBLIC ANTI-CORRUPTION STATEMENT" do you not comprehend? You think that is illegal? Are daft????
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What part of "PUBLIC ANTI-CORRUPTION STATEMENT" do you not comprehend? You think that is illegal? Are daft????
    In prepared testimony to the committees, Volker said Giuliani had called him and Sondland and said he believed the Ukrainian president needed to make a statement about fighting corruption and that he had discussed it with a top aide to Zelenskiy.

    On Aug. 16, the aide, Andriy Yermak, provided Volker with a draft but it included no reference to 2016 or Burisma.

    [Volker] said he spoke to Giuliani again, who said he thought it should include a specific reference to Burisma and 2016, relating to accusations of election interference.

    https://www.reuters.com/article/us-u...-idUSKCN1WK0LE


    Get it now?

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    Tranquillus in Exile, why do you think that matters? Ambassador Sondland was carrying out his orders to get a QPQ. That did not matter, but that does not matter. The intent and effort are impeachable.
    Russian trolls and their supporters go on Ignore, automatically: no second chance.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Tranquillus in Exile, why do you think that matters?
    Well, it seems the only one who was told the plan by Trump personally is Giuliani. Unless he sings, folks like Truth Deflector can go on pretending that Trump knew nothing about it.

    Maybe John Bolton has something.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    Former White House official Fiona Hill is testifying Thursday in the House impeachment inquiry, and her opening statement is a doozy for those who live in a Republican Bubble.

    Hill says not only was Russia the country that “interfered” in our 2016 election, but they were successful.
    Furthermore, those lawmakers who are claiming Ukraine attacked our country are parroting Putin’s talking points.

    The unfortunate truth is that Russia was the foreign power that systematically attacked our democratic institutions in 2016. This is the public conclusion of our intelligence agencies, confirmed in bipartisan Congressional reports. It is beyond dispute, even if some of the underlying details must remain classified.”

    This is reality. A hostile foreign country attacked our country and Republicans not only refuse to protect this country, but refuse to even admit that we have been attacked.

    The reason they won’t admit we have been attacked is that the attack put their party in the White House and that helped some of them down ticket.

    https://www.politicususa.com/2019/11...statement.html.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    every day your claims have been proven false........are you thinking today will be different?......
    You still cannot understand what is happening in front of your eyes. Are you able to convince yourself after all these officials and people explaining what a crook and liar Trump is? You would vote for him again.These hearings have said a lot and revealed a lot about Trump. Simultaneously, they have shown us what a total loss Trumpies like you are. You cannot learn or face the truth. How sad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    It's all about policies, Jack. It's always been, that's why Trump beat Hillary.
    And since the party of the jackass still doesn't have a viable candidate with any befitting policies, Trump will win again.
    I don't believe that is true.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    But it depends on who the dem nominee is right?

    According to lots of white people........there's a dem worse than dump. It's why they keep saying the dems need to nominate someone who can beat dump....

    Will dump still be removed if Booker or Harris is the nominee?
    TTQ: "But it depends on who the dem nominee is right?"
    Jack: I don't think so. ANY Democrat would be better than Trump.

    TTQ: "According to lots of white people........there's a dem worse than dump."
    Jack: I must have missed the White People's Meeting, who's that Democrat?

    TTQ: "Will dump still be removed if Booker or Harris is the nominee?"
    Jack: Yes. (well, yes ... if we can get our Negro friends to get off their asses and vote this time)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Are you able to convince yourself after all these officials and people explaining what a crook and liar Trump is?
    dude.....all these officials and people have testified they heard Trump say nothing that violated the law and presumed everything.......why are you an idiot?.....
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tranquillus in Exile View Post
    I wonder what the Ukrainian government thinks of the US under Trump?
    according to their statements, they think Trump didn't coerce them to do anything......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    I don't believe that is true.
    You don't think sealing our borders, even trade policies, trying to get along with other countries, relaxing stiff regulations on businesses, etc. is important?
    Yeah, it's all about policies, Jack.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    dude.....all these officials and people have testified they heard Trump say nothing that violated the law and presumed everything.......why are you an idiot?.....
    Actually, according to Lindsey, it is not necessary to break a law to get impeached. You do know he made a speech in the senate about that, don't you? Trump has a string of law breaks and violations. However, Trump was using military aid that was approved by congress as a hammer to get Ukraine to announce an investigation of Bidens. That is a crime.
    Ordering his people and himself to ignore lawful court orders and subpoenas.
    Soliciting foreign nations to interfere in American elections to his advantage. Rusia and now Ukraine.
    I guess this where i should call you a name or insult you, but your posting accomplishes that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    according to their statements, they think Trump didn't coerce them to do anything......
    Trump is president of the world partner they need the most. Do you think it would be wise for Zelensky to say Trump was squeezing him? What would Trump do if he said Trump was pressuring him? Think things out a little before you post.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Do you think it would be wise for Zelensky to say Trump was squeezing him?
    Sondland says he told a top aide to Zelensky that US aid was "likely" conditional on Ukraine playing along with Trump's scheme (see posts 90 & 92). But he kept Trump's name out of it. PMP thinks this clears Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tequila in Excess View Post
    Sondland says he told a top aide to Zelensky that US aid was "likely" conditional on Ukraine playing along with Trump's scheme (see posts 90 & 92). But he kept Trump's name out of it. PMP thinks this clears Trump.
    Clears Trump of what? Foreign policy the left doesn't like? Investigating corruption? It's over, deal with it. The Dims have opened the door into their face, yet again.

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