evince (11-20-2019), Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Micawber (11-20-2019), Taichiliberal (11-20-2019), ThatOwlWoman (11-20-2019)
big line the Republicans are stressing on, even Trump took notes on it and repeated it on his way to his campaign trip to Texas, but no one mentions that the call was on Sept 9th, almost a month after the White House knew the whistleblower's complaint was filed and judged as serious. In fact, most of what the lackeys are framing occurred after Trump knew the complaint was going to become public
The other hilarity is that supposedly none of them knew investigating Burisma meant investigating Biden till they read Trump's transcript. Trump didn't give a rat's ass about Saudi Arabia killing journalists, said Little Rocket Man was good to his people, nor concern with corruption in Turkey or any of the other autocrat's nations he gets along with, but now we are suppose to believe he is so obssessed with one corrupt company in the Ukraine
evince (11-20-2019), Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Micawber (11-20-2019), Taichiliberal (11-20-2019), ThatOwlWoman (11-20-2019)
Sondland asked Trump. "What do you want from Ukraine?"
Trump said, "I want nothing. I want no quid pro quo.
Tell Zelensky to do the right thing."
Sondland told Pencelneck today that was all I got from Pres. Trump.
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CNN now has another fake news headline out there............losers.
Per CNN: WITNESS IMPLICATES TRUMP
Just now Sondland testified in agreement with Turner...
No one on this planet told him that President Trump was tying aid
to 2016, Burisma or Biden investigations. He was only presuming.
"2 presumptions + 2 presumptions does not equal 1 fact."
Rep. Dr. Wenstrup 11/19/19
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Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
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you can't reach these idiots, if this forum is representation of liberals at large, it's no wonder they find themselves in the predicament they are in today
Let's let he US Senate sort this out for them
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Stretch (11-20-2019)
evince (11-20-2019)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Truth Detector (11-20-2019)
"gettin" again, he just don't get it
Obviously, Mitch will have the Senate quickly dispose of the impeachment charges, and the boot lickers will follow suit, that is not the point. Trump will boast "total vindication," play the vindicated victim, to which FOX will will endorse, perpetuate, and you will regurgitate endlessly
But what is happening today is an exposure of Trump's true character, that he is willing to go to any length, manipulate any event, to benefit himself regardless of the consequences. And, that large parts of his Administrarion were willing to go along with him. The hearings have given the Democrats just another strong arguement on live TV as to why Trump shouldn't be President.
Expect to see do me "a favor" a lot come next summer
That phone call was on Sept 9th, the whistle blower's complaint was filed on Aug 12th, from which it unprecedented traveled to the White House and DOJ before it was given to Congress. Those are the facts
Trump knew it was going to hit the fan, at the time he made that statement "nothing, no quid pro quo," he knew he was caught, statement means nothing
domer76 (11-21-2019)
Hello archives,
Spot on.
And isn't it interesting that Trump would bring up Quid Pro Quo in a phone call, seemingly out of the blue? He wasn't asked about a QPQ. He was the one who started talking about it.
Why would Trump say such a thing long before there was any impeachment inquiry?
Did he understand that what he was doing would implicate him in the crime of bribery?
And what a pile of BS to say he didn't want a QPQ when that was precisely what he was demanding!
He just went on TV and repeated some of the testimony from Sondland.
He repeated that he told Sondland on the phone both that he: "didn't want anything from Zelenski' but that he did actually want something from Zelenski, namely for him to 'do the right thing,' which was code for announcing an investigation into Biden.
What doubletalk.
= More word games from the master conman.
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Republicans trying to establish that witness never heard the President say the aid was conditional on Zelenski announcing investigation so it's all hearsay.
The problem with this feeble defense is the President is preventing the first hand witnesses from testifying.
So it all falls right into Trump's lap.
GUILTY.
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So "bribery" is off the table now, and we're back to "quid pro quo"? Pencil neck will be handing out the Latin-to-jackass dictionary again!
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Zelensky learns aid was held on Aug. 29th
Aug. 29th meeting with Bolton
Sept.1st meeting with Pence
Sept. 5th meeting with Murphy and Johnson
During those meetings there was never linkage between
dollars and any investigations.
"Both senators Murphy & Johnson have said, "At no time at this meeting
or any meeting has there been any mention by Zelensky or any other
Ukraine official that there was any pressure to do anything in return for
military aid."
BOTTOM LINE WHICH ALL WITNESSES SO FAR HAVE AGREED WITH?
A Prez can withhold/delay aid (been done for years) while vetting a recipient country.
A Prez is in charge of foreign affairs.
Last edited by Stretch; 11-20-2019 at 04:01 PM.
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
Truth Detector (11-20-2019)
Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
pain in abortion.
Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
which has begun. To abort life is to end it.
PostmodernProphet (11-20-2019), Truth Detector (11-20-2019)
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