PoliTalker (11-21-2019), ThatOwlWoman (11-20-2019)
So the question is no longer if he will be impeached or not, the question is now will he have the decency to resign.
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18 U.S. Code § 2071 - Concealment, removal, or mutilation generally
44 U.S.C. 2202 - The United States shall reserve and retain complete ownership, possession, and control of Presidential records; and such records shall be administered in accordance with the provisions of this chapter.
LOCK HIM UP!
PoliTalker (11-21-2019), ThatOwlWoman (11-20-2019)
Stefanik is once again making the point which has been made repeatedly that the Javelins were made available to Ukraine by the Trump administration but not the Obama administration (as if that has anything to do with it.) The point they NEVER make is that Ukraine had an election in the duration and went from a corrupt government to an anti-corrupt one.
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Earl (11-21-2019)
Hello ThatOwlWoman,
Thank you. My pleasure.
I find it especially inspirational to see how real politics is conducted in Congress. There are no personal attacks at all. Decorum is maintained at all times. If only the participants of this forum would conduct themselves in such a way our discussions could be far more meaningful.
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ThatOwlWoman (11-20-2019)
Under Secretary Hale has affirmed that Ambassador Yovanovitch is stellar dedicated diplomat, and that what the President did to her in a tweet was wrong.
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Jack (11-20-2019)
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Earl (11-21-2019)
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Cypress (11-21-2019)
Gregg Jarrett: Trump impeachment based on unreliable presumptions, rumor and innuendo – Not facts
Gregg Jarrett By Gregg Jarrett
“The House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment hearing Wednesday posed a conundrum. Better yet, let’s call it a riddle. When is a “quid pro quo” not a “quid pro quo?” The answer is … when it’s “presumed.”
U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland testified that there was a “quid pro quo” between the U.S. and Ukraine, even though President Trump made it crystal clear to Sondland that there was no “quid pro quo.”
So, how did the ambassador arrive at his opinion that a “quid pro quo” must somehow exist? It turns out that he assumed or “presumed” it. At one point, he called it a mere “guess.”
SONDLAND IMPLICATES TOP OFFICIALS ON UKRAINE, BUT SAYS HE ‘NEVER HEARD’ QUID PRO QUO FROM TRUMP
Gregg Jarrett: At impeachment hearing, irrelevant opinions by Trump critics masquerade as facts
Cal Thomas: Impeachment effort motivated by Dem fears that strong Trump economy will hurt them in elections
The trouble with presumptions and guess-work is that they are often unreliable and sometimes quite wrong. Assumptions and suppositions, by their nature, can be risky and foolish. We should trust only in what we know that is derived from facts. This was the fatal flaw in Sondland’s narrative.
Here is what we actually know: Nowhere in the July 25 telephone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is there evidence of a demand, threat, condition or pressure for a “quid pro quo.” None. That is a demonstrable fact, as proven by a transcript of the conversation that the White House released to the public. Read it for yourself.”
foxnews.com
Truth Detector (11-21-2019)
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