WOW, BAM... This is insane testimony.

[Jarod]

So the question is no longer if he will be impeached or not, the question is now will he have the decency to resign.

[PoliTalker]

Stefanik is once again making the point which has been made repeatedly that the Javelins were made available to Ukraine by the Trump administration but not the Obama administration (as if that has anything to do with it.) The point they NEVER make is that Ukraine had an election in the duration and went from a corrupt government to an anti-corrupt one.

[PoliTalker]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

That is all. This post won the Innernetz today.

Thank you. My pleasure.

I find it especially inspirational to see how real politics is conducted in Congress. There are no personal attacks at all. Decorum is maintained at all times. If only the participants of this forum would conduct themselves in such a way our discussions could be far more meaningful.

[PoliTalker]

Under Secretary Hale has affirmed that Ambassador Yovanovitch is stellar dedicated diplomat, and that what the President did to her in a tweet was wrong.

[Cypress]

When is the last time you can remember a 70-something-year-old "growing into" anything? That was the excuse for the early Twittler fumbles, remember? It was also used to excuse the fact that the idiots voted for a game show host for president.

Never.

But trumpf hires the best people! At least the ones who haven't gone to prison or resigned in disgrace

[christiefan915]

Stefanik is once again making the point which has been made repeatedly that the Javelins were made available to Ukraine by the Trump administration but not the Obama administration (as if that has anything to do with it.) The point they NEVER make is that Ukraine had an election in the duration and went from a corrupt government to an anti-corrupt one.

That, to me, is a bottom-of-the-barrel defense to deflect from trump's corruption. And they ignored (until tonight) everything Obama did for Ukraine, and it wasn't just "blankets."

[christiefan915]

Hello ThatOwlWoman,

Thank you. My pleasure.

I find it especially inspirational to see how real politics is conducted in Congress. There are no personal attacks at all. Decorum is maintained at all times. If only the participants of this forum would conduct themselves in such a way our discussions could be far more meaningful.

Well, mostly. Jordan and Nunes take every opportunity to fire off some insults at the Dems, the press, and everyone who doesn't support trump.

[christiefan915]

Under Secretary Hale has affirmed that Ambassador Yovanovitch is stellar dedicated diplomat, and that what the President did to her in a tweet was wrong.

I was so glad to see him step up. Unlike craven Pompeo.

[Jack]

No, they have not. But then, you are a dipshit and a pathological liar.

(shaking head)

[Nordberg]

How do you get these guys to honor a subpoena?

Now you know for sure why they will not.

[PoliTalker]

Hello christiefan915,

That, to me, is a bottom-of-the-barrel defense to deflect from trump's corruption. And they ignored (until tonight) everything Obama did for Ukraine, and it wasn't just "blankets."

So true. Armored Humvees and training that took a rag-tag mish mosh of volunteers and turned them into an effective fighting force.

[PoliTalker]

So the question is no longer if he will be impeached or not, the question is now will he have the decency to resign.

Trump?

Decency?

Surely you jest.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Cypress,

Never.

But trumpf hires the best people! At least the ones who haven't gone to prison or resigned in disgrace

I am starting to think there are probably many stable geniuses in prison.

-And there are bound to be more.

[Earl]

Gregg Jarrett: Trump impeachment based on unreliable presumptions, rumor and innuendo – Not facts
Gregg Jarrett By Gregg Jarrett

“The House Intelligence Committee’s impeachment hearing Wednesday posed a conundrum. Better yet, let’s call it a riddle. When is a “quid pro quo” not a “quid pro quo?” The answer is … when it’s “presumed.”

U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland testified that there was a “quid pro quo” between the U.S. and Ukraine, even though President Trump made it crystal clear to Sondland that there was no “quid pro quo.”


So, how did the ambassador arrive at his opinion that a “quid pro quo” must somehow exist? It turns out that he assumed or “presumed” it. At one point, he called it a mere “guess.”

SONDLAND IMPLICATES TOP OFFICIALS ON UKRAINE, BUT SAYS HE ‘NEVER HEARD’ QUID PRO QUO FROM TRUMP

Gregg Jarrett: At impeachment hearing, irrelevant opinions by Trump critics masquerade as facts
Cal Thomas: Impeachment effort motivated by Dem fears that strong Trump economy will hurt them in elections
The trouble with presumptions and guess-work is that they are often unreliable and sometimes quite wrong. Assumptions and suppositions, by their nature, can be risky and foolish. We should trust only in what we know that is derived from facts. This was the fatal flaw in Sondland’s narrative.

Here is what we actually know: Nowhere in the July 25 telephone call between President Trump and Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky is there evidence of a demand, threat, condition or pressure for a “quid pro quo.” None. That is a demonstrable fact, as proven by a transcript of the conversation that the White House released to the public. Read it for yourself.”
foxnews.com

[PoliTalker]

Hello christiefan915,

Well, mostly. Jordan and Nunes take every opportunity to fire off some insults at the Dems, the press, and everyone who doesn't support trump.

Yeah, but those are generalized attacks, or crafted as attacks on some action, position or statement. It never devolves into name-calling. Order is maintained. People are not even allowed to speak unless recognized by the chair.