christiefan915 (11-20-2019), Cypress (11-20-2019), Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Iolo/Penderyn (11-20-2019), jimmymccready (12-05-2019), Phantasmal (11-20-2019), Trumpet (11-20-2019)
The impeachment proceedings are the deciding factor.
Democrats are all about the facts of the case, acting very professionally.
Republicans are all about the Democrats, acting very unprofessionally.
Democrats in the hearings are trying to examine what transpired.
Republicans in the hearings are making a mockery of the process, trashing the Constitution, trying to turn the proceedings into a partisan battle.
Republicans are showing themselves to be more committed to their party than they are to the United States of America.
Republicans loyalty to Trump exceeds their loyalty to America, and that's dangerous.
Republicans are prejudiced and operating under the predetermined conclusion that Trump is innocent.
They begin with one pledge, that Trump is innocent, and they are twisting everything else around that one immovable object.
It is sickening to watch.
I feel bad for them. They have lost respect.
Their lack of objectivity is dangerous for America.
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christiefan915 (11-20-2019), Cypress (11-20-2019), Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Iolo/Penderyn (11-20-2019), jimmymccready (12-05-2019), Phantasmal (11-20-2019), Trumpet (11-20-2019)
Republicans simply refuse to objectively consider the possibility that President Trump is actually guilty.
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Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Phantasmal (11-20-2019), Trumpet (11-20-2019)
Nunes said the Mueller Investigation was a failure. (as if that has ANYTHING to do with this impeachment.)
He is only propping up Republican propaganda with a crack like that.
How many of Trump's people have already been convicted?
Counting the latest one, Roger Stone, on Friday?
All those convictions came from the Mueller Investigation.
What is a failure is Republicans ability to be objective.
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Cypress (11-20-2019), Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), Phantasmal (11-20-2019), Trumpet (11-20-2019)
... of what?
Lie. They are making shit up because they don't like the President and fear that they can't beat him in 2020. They have made a mockery of the impeachment process.
Inversion Fallacy. That would be the Democrats.
Lie. They are making shit up because they don't like the President and fear that they can't beat him in 2020. They have made a mockery of the impeachment process.
Inversion Fallacy. That would all be the Democrats. Here is my list of how Liberals are rejecting the US Constitution. It includes, but is not limited to:
** They reject the limits on the legislative powers of Congress. (thus rejecting Article I)
** They reject the executive powers of the President if they happen to not like the President, and they reject the Electoral College. They reject the proper method and reasoning for removing a President from office. They reject the enumerated duties of a President, especially the duties of preserving/defending/protecting the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article II)
** They reject the scope and role of SCOTUS and other inferior courts. They believe that SCOTUS are the sole interpreters of the US Constitution. They believe that SCOTUS are oligarchs. (thus rejecting Article III)
** They reject the Republican form of government that is guaranteed to the States. They reject protecting the States from invasions and domestic violence (especially when relating to immigration). (thus rejecting Article IV)
** They reject the formal amendment process, and instead regularly misuse the court system as a "work-around" to that. They wish to transform the USA into the SOA (Socialist Oligarchy of America). (thus rejecting Article V)
** They reject legislating in pursuance of the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article VI)
** They reject that the States (collectively) are the owners of the US Constitution. (thus rejecting Article VII)
** They also reject many of the Amendments to the Constitution, and actively fight against people's inherent rights (such as the right to have and express an opinion, freedom of religion, right to keep and bear arms, due process, etc...)
Inversion Fallacy. That would be the Democrats.
Democrats hate towards Trump exceeds their loyalty to America, and that's dangerous.
Inversion Fallacy. That would be the Democrats.
Since when is someone "guilty until proven innocent"?? Speaking of which, have you stopped beating your wife yet?
He IS innocent, dummy... Innocent until proven guilty. What crime has he committed?
That SHOULD be the initial assumption. Innocent until proven guilty.
Nahhhh, your "guilty until proven innocent" attitude is what is sickening.
Inversion Fallacy. That would be the Democrats.
Inversion Fallacy. That would be the Democrats. THEY are the ones who are outright rejecting the Constitution as I have explained above...
Truth Detector (11-20-2019)
The Republicans are dancing to the tune dictated by their racist base.
Guno צְבִי (11-20-2019), PoliTalker (11-20-2019)
The OP believes you're guilty until proven innocent......unless you're a Democrat. Then she'll cite the constitution
Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.
gfm7175 (11-20-2019)
Something struck me as I listen to these hearings.
The lawyers all sound the same in a way, both sides. They are all about the nitty gritty. Unpacking the details behind each event, each phone call, meeting, text, etc. That's the way they are whether they are on the Democratic side or the Republican side.
The House Committee Members differ greatly, depending on which side they are on.
Now, the Democrats pretty much sound like the lawyers. They are all about the nitty gritty. Unpacking the details behind each event, each phone call, meeting, text, etc.
The Republicans spend inordinate amounts of time talking about the Democrats, conspiracy theories about the Bidens, and making lots of false statements about constant impeachment attempts, and characterizing the Mueller investigation in a partisan way. Why are they even talking about the Mueller investigation? It has nothing to do with the hearings.
The reason, of course, is that the Republicans have no defense of the President. They have no way to make what happened unhappen.
The President is guilty of attempted bribery in trying to offer already-agreed-upon military aid to Ukraine conditional upon Zelenski making a public announcement of investigations into his pet propaganda theories involving the Bidens and Russian collusion in the 2016 election.
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domer76 (11-20-2019)
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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