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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I spoke to a Norwegian here in Thailand recently, he told that he worked for Emerson the people that made the defective blowout preventer. I asked him why did BP get most of the blame and he said that's down to scumbag US lawyers and a racist president. Oh and another thing, why is it when you get yet another good kicking, do you then attempt to duck and dive and bring up some irrelevant bullshit?
    Since you're an Idiot, I will have to educate you:

    "On August 30, 1967, a diverse group of California leaders came together to unify statewide efforts to address severe air pollution. Governor Ronald Reagan approved the Mulford-Carrell Air Resources Act to create the State Air Resources Board, committing California to a unified, statewide approach to aggressively address the serious issue of air pollution in the state."
    https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/about/history

    "It was not until the early 1950s that it became clear the automobile was the main culprit. That’s when Dr. Arie Haagen-Smit discovered the nature and causes of photochemical smog. He made the discovery while on a one-year leave of absence from Caltech, where he was a bioorganic chemistry professor. Working in a specially-equipped Los Angeles air district laboratory, he determined that two chief constituents of automobile exhaust – airborne hydrocarbons from gasoline, and oxides of nitrogen (NOx) produced by internal combustion engines – were to blame for smog. His research, highlighting the reaction of sunlight with automobile exhaust and industrial air pollution, became the foundation upon which today’s air pollution regulations are based."

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    Are you reading any of this?

    "That was just the beginning. Under the provisions of the Clean Air Act, CARB has adopted, implemented and enforced a wide array of nation-leading air pollution controls, based on a strong foundation of science over the next five decades. This regulatory history reflects a longstanding partnership between state and federal air quality regulators during both Republican and Democratic presidential administrations. This partnership has allowed California to develop and implement air pollution control strategies that have proven to be a model for other states, the nation and other countries."

    "In the 1980s and ‘90s, California cars became the cleanest in the world, and California’s fuel became the cleanest, too. CARB, which had already eliminated lead in gasoline, adopted standards for cleaner-burning gasoline, as well as initial standards for cleaner diesel fuel for trucks and buses. CARB also began work to reduce smog-forming emissions from thousands of common household products."




    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    I spoke to a Norwegian here in Thailand recently, he told that he worked for Emerson the people that made the defective blowout preventer. I asked him why did BP get most of the blame and he said that's down to scumbag US lawyers and a racist president. Oh and another thing, why is it when you get yet another good kicking, do you then attempt to duck and dive and bring up some irrelevant bullshit?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Yep, Cali's little temper tantrum achieves nothing. Green cars aren't really very green.

    Doomsday cultists.
    While it takes a bit of overemphasis of the worst case scenario by the press to move the needle of public opinion, your wholesale dismissal of all science on the matter is inexcusable
    and cannot be explained other than by fealty to the dirty energy sector profits impaired by scientific fact.

    You are closer to witting and recalcitrant flat earthers than we are to doomsday cultists. After all, we have ALL the science.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    While it takes a bit of overemphasis of the worst case scenario by the press to move the needle of public opinion, your wholesale dismissal of all science on the matter is inexcusable
    and cannot be explained other than by fealty to the dirty energy sector profits impaired by scientific fact.

    You are closer to witting and recalcitrant flat earthers than we are to doomsday cultists. After all, we have ALL the science.
    There is no science on the matter. All of nothing still equals nothing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    While it takes a bit of overemphasis of the worst case scenario by the press to move the needle of public opinion, your wholesale dismissal of all science on the matter is inexcusable
    and cannot be explained other than by fealty to the dirty energy sector profits impaired by scientific fact.

    You are closer to witting and recalcitrant flat earthers than we are to doomsday cultists. After all, we have ALL the science.
    Any warming the planet has experienced is within the parameters of natural variability.

    The Al Gorians are a Doomsday cult run by power hungry rich white liberals. You do't see Blacks or Hispanics or Asians or the poor, ... getting the vapors and fainting in fear over CO2

    And there is nothing scientific about throwing modern proxy data in the trash and substituting satellite measurements in order to create a false paradigm.

    It violates the prime rules of scientific methodology.
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    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Since you're an Idiot, I will have to educate you:

    "On August 30, 1967, a diverse group of California leaders came together to unify statewide efforts to address severe air pollution. Governor Ronald Reagan approved the Mulford-Carrell Air Resources Act to create the State Air Resources Board, committing California to a unified, statewide approach to aggressively address the serious issue of air pollution in the state."
    https://ww2.arb.ca.gov/about/history

    "It was not until the early 1950s that it became clear the automobile was the main culprit. That’s when Dr. Arie Haagen-Smit discovered the nature and causes of photochemical smog. He made the discovery while on a one-year leave of absence from Caltech, where he was a bioorganic chemistry professor. Working in a specially-equipped Los Angeles air district laboratory, he determined that two chief constituents of automobile exhaust – airborne hydrocarbons from gasoline, and oxides of nitrogen (NOx) produced by internal combustion engines – were to blame for smog. His research, highlighting the reaction of sunlight with automobile exhaust and industrial air pollution, became the foundation upon which today’s air pollution regulations are based."
    Again more diversionary bullshit, didn't anybody tell when in a hole to stop digging?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Again more diversionary bullshit, didn't anybody tell when in a hole to stop digging?
    California recognized a problem with pollution from cars. It did something about it. They set standards for cars to meet. Detroit laughed. California told Detroit it wouldn't be allowed to sell cars in California that didn't meet the standard. Detroit began building cars that met the standard.

    The Emission Controls that are in place for Britain ... you can thank California.

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    California's practices have cleaned up air pollution significantly. They have that right. Policies of Repubs that would make their air smoggy and dark should be ignored.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    California's practices have cleaned up air pollution significantly. They have that right. Policies of Repubs that would make their air smoggy and dark should be ignored.

    At least try and look shit up before opening your mouth. You just look stupid.

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/24/los-...port-says.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    While it takes a bit of overemphasis of the worst case scenario by the press to move the needle of public opinion, your wholesale dismissal of all science on the matter is inexcusable
    and cannot be explained other than by fealty to the dirty energy sector profits impaired by scientific fact.

    You are closer to witting and recalcitrant flat earthers than we are to doomsday cultists. After all, we have ALL the science.
    This from a party that cannot even figure the difference between a male and a female. Some "scientists".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    This from a party that cannot even figure the difference between a male and a female. Some "scientists".


    "I mean, you got the first mainstream African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that's a storybook, man."
    — Joe Biden on Obama.

    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cypress View Post
    It seems likely or probable that many California municipalities and county car fleets will follow that State government's lead over time, thus resulting in significant economic losses for Toyota, Chrysler, et al.

    I have always maintained that worshipping Trumpf and being eager to kiss his huge, flabby ass does not pay. But I guess some people are going to have to learn the hard way.
    Sure is logical. As they have to rotate them out of service.

    PS You reminded me, I did a poster of his ass. (Let's see if I can insert it here--I can't resize when uploading my own stuff)

    TRUMP ASS6.jpg
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Sure is logical. As they have to rotate them out of service.

    PS You reminded me, I did a poster of his ass. (Let's see if I can insert it here--I can't resize when uploading my own stuff)

    TRUMP ASS6.jpg
    WTF does that stupid poster have to do with CA. not buying cars from Chrysler or Chevrolet?



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