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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    these hormones are artificially injected. They make the meat chewy and uber thick, you are a dunce who thinks he is smart, I bump into all kinds of you types. Knows just enough to think he is a stable genius.
    I used to raise chickens. They are not 'pumped full of hormones'. The chicks are given an vaccine to prevent disease (while still in their eggs no less!), and that's it. Just good old grain (usually corn or wheat). Some farms use steroids to increase muscle mass for chickens destined to for the slaughterhouse. It doesn't toughen up anything.

    I think you don't know how to cook chicken. Overcooking a chicken will make it tough and rubbery.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Obviously there is. The state becomes a big, inefficient firm on the world market, like your monopolies, and the boss class runs it and profits.
    No, even then the government does not create any wealth. It doesn't profit either. They are only stealing the wealth from others. Slavery is theft of wealth and theft of labor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Each State and the Central Government run by and worked in the interests of the capitalists, obviously. A tiny proportion of people are capitalists, and nobody else gets a look in, not anywhere.
    You are describing socialism, not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    There are, obviously, no socialist governments on earth. Your capitalist armies destroy any such things at once.
    North Korea. Argentina. Cuba. Iran. China. The U.S. Army has not destroyed any of these nations.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    How can it be? All State governments are the central committees of the ruling class, and the vast majority can't be a ruling class, obviously.
    Oh, yeah, they really have the interests of the people at heart, those central committees.

    I know as a Marxist, you are only capable of having a conversation if you are permitted to define everything by an incorrect view of class, but, in a liberal democracy, all classes are the ruling class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, even then the government does not create any wealth. It doesn't profit either. They are only stealing the wealth from others. Slavery is theft of wealth and theft of labor.
    Obviously. No capitalist ever created wealth - they just steal it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    You are describing socialism, not capitalism. Redefinition fallacy.
    I'm defining what is, wordwide - capitalism, either State or Monopoly everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    North Korea. Argentina. Cuba. Iran. China. The U.S. Army has not destroyed any of these nations.
    Bit like listing the United States, Hitler's German and the old racist South Africa as 'Christian', kid. You mustn't believe all your masters tell you! Socialism is control by the vast working majority.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bull Durham View Post
    Oh, yeah, they really have the interests of the people at heart, those central committees.

    I know as a Marxist, you are only capable of having a conversation if you are permitted to define everything by an incorrect view of class, but, in a liberal democracy, all classes are the ruling class.
    Do they buggery. All capitalist, everywhere and always, have one interest at heart only - their own. Have you any idea at all of what you are talking about? What do you define class by? Hair colour? Size of ears? The only useful definition of class is how the people in it get a living, obviously.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Obviously there is. The state becomes a big, inefficient firm on the world market, like your monopolies, and the boss class runs it and profits.
    the only form of socialism that has ever existed.........anything else is some sort of textbook theory......
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    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    There are, obviously, no socialist governments on earth. Your capitalist armies destroy any such things at once.
    so it is silly to pretend there is a "socialism" as you define it........we are talking about socialism as it exists in reality, not as it exists in your imagination........
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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Do they buggery. All capitalist, everywhere and always, have one interest at heart only - their own. Have you any idea at all of what you are talking about? What do you define class by? Hair colour? Size of ears? The only useful definition of class is how the people in it get a living, obviously.
    Yes, the people have their own interests at heart. Not the interests of the central committee, or those of the party at-large, or those of retarded Marxist ideologues such as yourself. You want people to choose a slavish devotion to your grand ideology, its parties, and their central committees, rather than to themselves and their families. That is not going to happen (except in North Korea), nor should it happen.

    Since you would prefer that people not get a living, it kind of ruins your whole argument about class.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Obviously. No capitalist ever created wealth - they just steal it.
    No, you are describing socialism again. You really seem to be confused about the difference between capitalism and socialism. Capitalism is the only economic system that creates wealth. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    I'm defining what is, wordwide - capitalism, either State or Monopoly everywhere.
    A monopoly has nothing to do with either socialism or capitalism. It is just a monopoly. There is no such thing as a government monopoly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Penderyn View Post
    Bit like listing the United States, Hitler's German and the old racist South Africa as 'Christian', kid. You mustn't believe all your masters tell you! Socialism is control by the vast working majority.
    Nazis are socialists. Capitalism is control by the vast working majority. You have it exactly backwards.

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