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    Hello Jarod,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump is preventing Americans from hearing important testimony… Is this Russia?

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    Mulvaney
    Rudy
    And others.....


    How is this okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Jarod,



    Pompeo, Perry, Don Jr...
    Will the American people let him get away with whining about not having first hand witnesses, while he is preventing them from having first hand witnesses?
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    LOCK HIM UP!

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    Hello Celticguy,

    Quote Originally Posted by Celticguy View Post
    The only two witnesses that matter are Ukrainian leaders who have already made public statements invalidating this silliness.
    IOW, the witnesses which support a foregone assumption that Trump is innocent.

    Why don't you simply say the truth?

    You would disagree with any impeachment of Trump no matter what the charge because you place him above the law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    Never owned a dog,dumb fuck
    No you killed it to quickly to be considered it's owner.

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    Hello Jarod,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Elections have consequence and DEMOCRATS were chosen to be in charge of the House of Representatives.
    We THE PEOPLE spoke. (Just as with the 2016 Presidential election where 3 million MORE voted against Trump.)

    It is striking that Trump has such low job approval polling, given the good economy. A President would have to be pretty unpopular to have such a good economy and such low approval.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump is preventing Americans from hearing important testimony… Is this Russia?

    Bolton
    Mulvaney
    Rudy
    And others.....


    How is this okay?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Trump is preventing Americans from hearing important testimony… Is this Russia?
    How is this okay?
    CONSTITUTION; READ it. It's because we don't live in a lawless, Fascistic third world shit hole that they don't have to answer to a lying partisan hack like Schiff.

    I do wish you were as smart as you think you are.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    It is perfectly OK. Democrat in Congress have a lot less power than they think they have. As they are learning.
    Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    "preventing Americans from hearing important testimony…" that will impeach the President in his extortion scheme.
    Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
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    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    If Trump has exculpatory evidence, (that means evidence showing his innocence), now is the time for him to go to congress and present it.
    Since when does the accused have to provide evidence of their innocence? The CONSTITUTION; READ it.

    You had to be the worst attorney in the history of law.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    Only in the Soviet Union and banana republics do people have to “prove” their innocence

    Sounds like democrats haven’t proved his guilt
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Things like this are unremarkable at this point. This presidency has been off the rails since day one.
    It is an utterly lawless administration. Nobody has any confidence in its operations. It is untrustworthy.
    How is this Presidency off the rails? The Mueller HOAX proved Trump was innocent of all the lie filled narratives the PHONY media and Democratic Party of the Jackass promoted.

    The DOW hit a new record high on Friday.

    The economy is booming. GDP has doubled since Obamunism. We are seeing a 60 year low in unemployment which is basically FULL employment according to economists.

    Only a low IQ leftist loon stuck on moron can claim this is bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    No, it is YOU and your ilk who have been "off the rails" since day one. You keep calling the President "lawless", but you can never seem to find him breaking any actual laws.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    How is this Presidency off the rails? The Mueller HOAX proved Trump was innocent of all the lie filled narratives the PHONY media and Democratic Party of the Jackass promoted.

    The DOW hit a new record high on Friday.

    The economy is booming. GDP has doubled since Obamunism. We are seeing a 60 year low in unemployment which is basically FULL employment according to economists.

    Only a low IQ leftist loon stuck on moron can claim this is bad.
    FACTUAL RESULTS OF THE OBSTRUCTION INVESTIGATION

    A. The Campaign's Response to Reports About Russian Support for Trump
    B. The President's Conduct Concerning the Investigation of Michael Flynn
    C. The President's Reaction to Public Confirmation of the FBl's Russia Investigation
    D. Events Leading Up To and Surrounding the Termination of FBI Director Corney
    E. The President's Efforts to Remove the Special Counsel
    F. The President's Efforts to Curtail the Special Counsel Investigation
    H. The President's Further Efforts to Have the Attorney General Take Over the Investigation
    I. The President Orders McGahn to Deny that the President Tried to Fire the Special Counsel
    J. The President's Conduct Towards Flynn, Manafort,
    K. The President's Conduct Involving Michael Cohen

    “Our investigation found multiple acts by the President that were capable of exerting undue influence over law enforcement investigations, including the Russian-interference and obstruction investigations. The incidents were often carried out through one-on-one meetings in which the President sought to use his official power outside of usual channels. These actions ranged from efforts to remove the Special Counsel and to reverse the effect of the Attorney General's recusal; to the attempted use of official power to limit the scope of the investigation; to direct and indirect contacts with witnesses with the potential to influence their testimony. Viewing the acts collectively can help to illuminate their significance. For example, the President's direction to McGahn to have the Special Counsel removed was followed almost immediately by his direction to Lewandowski to tell the Attorney General to limit the scope of the Russia investigation to prospective election-interference only-a temporal connection that suggests that both acts were taken with a related purpose with respect to the investigation.”
    ____________

    Obstruction of justice - 18 USC 1501-1521
    Witness intimidation 18 USC 1512
    Emoluments - US Constitution
    Abuse of power - no statute. Merely reason to be removed from office
    Extortion – 18 USC 112
    Solicitation of something of value from a foreign entity - 11CFR 110.2 and 11 CFR 300.2

    ______________

    Extortion – 4 elements
    Threat – withholding $400 million
    Intent – Forcing public announcement of investigations
    Fear – of loss of funding for defensive weapons against the Russians
    Property – the thing of value is the investigations of 2016 tampering and the Bidens

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Tell us Phan how the Republicans held Clintons impeachment behind closed doors till they were pressured to make it public? No miss holier than thou your side are the ones circumventing standing procedures.
    It is public now, except for a deposition done yesterday. This is a lame excuse. Initial hearings are often done in committee in private. Benghazi was the same way. Your outrage is noted.

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