Stents and bypass surgery are no more effective than drugs for stable heart disease

[domer76]

"Stents, bypass surgery offer only limited benefits for millions with heart disease, study finds

PHILADELPHIA — Stents and coronary artery bypass surgery are no more effective than intensive drug treatment and better health habits in preventing millions of Americans from heart attacks and death, a large study found, shedding new light on a major controversy in cardiology. ... "


https://www.foxnews.com/health/stent...se-study-finds

Speaking of heart disease. Trump has it and made a surprise visit the Walter Reed yesterday. Totally out of the blue. Caught everybody by surprise.

He claims it was part of his annual physical exam. Problem is that it's not due until February.

One source indicates he was experiencing chest discomfort.

One can only hope.

[domer76]

One of my racketball friends had a quadruple bypass Friday. He has 4 brothers and 3 of them have had open-heart surgery. His father did too. Drugs were not going to save him.

Genetics

[Nomad]

He had the money for the best treatment too. Lots of Americans do not. Just having regular doctor visits and checkups is a big factor that many do not have access to.

When talking about how we as a country deal with health care, I've always felt that preventative measures, like an annual physical, should be something that is provided for free or minimal cost to all Americans who meet the income qualification guidelines.

A national catastrophic illness insurance program for people who can't afford private insurance would be great, too.

[evince]

Truth is we are all snowflakes with different bodies responding differently to similar stimuli. Genetics is a huge factor. Diet and exercise is another. But many do everything that medical science suggests and they still get blockages.
My brother has angioplasty when he was in his 40s. He swam every day and played tennis. He was a near vegetarian and his weight was ideal. He was back at work in a week after the procedure. He asked his doctor what he got from doing everything right. The doc said,"you were back to work in a week".

here here


it likely saved him LOTS of pain and suffering

[evince]

When talking about how we as a country deal with health care, I've always felt that preventative measures, like an annual physical, should be something that is provided for free or minimal cost to all Americans who meet the income qualification guidelines.

A national catastrophic illness insurance program for people who can't afford private insurance would be great, too.

required cooking classes that center around healthy eating

Jr high would be a great time to place them

[evince]

Speaking of heart disease. Trump has it and made a surprise visit the Walter Reed yesterday. Totally out of the blue. Caught everybody by surprise.

He claims it was part of his annual physical exam. Problem is that it's not due until February.

One source indicates he was experiencing chest discomfort.

One can only hope.

its horrible to hope him medical problems but its hard to see his death as a bad thing


Like Dick cheney


I will celebrate his death and its date as a personal holiday the rest of my living days


DicK : ding dong the dick is dead day


Trump: freedom from Russia day

[Mason Melchizedek]

I got a stent in "the widow maker",17 years ago,been on statin,betablocker,asprin,ACE inhibitor ever since.
Haven't had any problems since.

[Nomad]

required cooking classes that center around healthy eating

Jr high would be a great time to place them

They've been teaching healthy nutrition in public schools for years.

I don't think school curriculums or budgets have room for required cooking classes.

[domer76]

They've been teaching healthy nutrition in public schools for years.

I don't think school curriculums or budgets have room for required cooking classes.

They have. But notice when it became Michelle Obama's program choice, the right just shit all over themselves.

[anonymoose]

Go eat a pound of bacon swimming in butter.

French fries cut off a fresh potato deep fried in used bacon grease are the best!

[Nomad]

They have. But notice when it became Michelle Obama's program choice, the right just shit all over themselves.

Well let's face it... tirelessly working, promoting and advocating good nutrition and exercise especially for our nation's youth as she did, doesn't carry anywhere near the importance of saying "Be best" a couple of times, then disappearing into the WH or 5th Ave NYC penthouse in order to hide from the public spotlight brought upon you by your embarrassment of a husband.

[domer76]

Well let's face it... tirelessly working, promoting and advocating good nutrition and exercise especially for our nation's youth as she did, doesn't carry anywhere near the importance of saying "Be best" a couple of times, then disappearing into the WH or 5th Ave NYC penthouse in order to hide from the public spotlight brought upon you by your embarrassment of a husband.

lol

Is that her program? I never knew what it was.

[Stretch]

Statins are a scam. Big Pharma latched on to this 40 or so years ago. They are not necessary.
The body makes its cholesterol, about 3,000mg a day. Both HDL & LDL are good. They deliver
what is needed for good brain health. Ever since doctors started pumpin' this stuff into people
(mainly over 60) there's been a huge spike in Alzheimer's and deaths from the disease. The
standard generalized lab tests most of us get once a year with our check-ups mean little with
those generalized cholesterol, HDL & LDL figures. The Tri's matter. That's about it. It's not about
the LDL number you see in the results. I started requesting my doctor give me an NMR test for my
cholesterol (LipoProteins). This one tells you the CONDITION of the LDL particles.
Are small & sense? Not too good. Are they large & fluffy? Excellent. You could have sky high LDL
and as long as the particles are in good shape, you're in great health and your LipoPtroteins
are getting delivered to your brain and other areas of your body that REQUIRES daily deliveries
of good quality LDL.

I'll post more on this in a bit.

[Nordberg]

Genetics

Point being that there are lots of factors and how they impact each person is different. People say exercise and diet matter. They appear to in general, but not in specific.

[Stretch]

Sugar & carbs are killing people......not healthy fats and protein.