Hello Darth,
Originally Posted by
Darth Omar
Well, not enough people are buying it to convince republicans to impeach Trump on it lol.
This all seems like pretty serious stuff, an impeachment, so I don't know what about it you find so funny about it with your 'lol.' Is it somehow amusing that Trump fans are not taking this seriously? Do they think it is a joke? I assure you Democrats are not kidding around.
When you say 'people are not buying into it,' what you mean is Trump supporters are not buying into it. And frankly, nothing is going to persuade them that the President is dirty. They have actually bought into an idea that the President can do no wrong, is above the law. Any attempts to bring the President to justice will be opposed by his supporters. Facts have nothing to do with it. We give them facts, they just refuse to acknowledge reality.
The fact of the matter is that President Trump is going to be impeached. Democrats don't need Republicans for that. If Republicans want to blindly support President Trump, they will have to ignore the facts and choose to believe otherwise. Republicans can do that but that is only going to get them the support of blindly faithful Trump fans. The more open minded middle is not going to buy into that.
Originally Posted by
Darth Omar
Pelosi lost two democrats on the ‘dry run’ impeachment vote—technically, that’s a bipartisan vote AGAINST impeachment. House Democrats need a big revelation to move the needle and they aren’t getting it from the witnesses; the Biden’s keep coming up [why shouldn’t they?]; all the ‘big moments’ people are talking about are democrats and republicans bickering over parliamentary procedures.
Anybody who is paying attention to the facts can see the very troubling evidence against the President. If they choose to vote in opposition to the facts, they are only doing that to cling to power. That is an appeal to the misinformed.
Originally Posted by
Darth Omar
Remove the word ‘impeachment’ from it and it’s just another garden variety congressional dog and pony show. People [Trump fans, you mean] are going to lose interest in it if something doesn’t happen soon.
Oh, I think people are paying attention. Trump fans are trying to block it out, pretend it's a joke. They never DID have any interest in learning what's going on. But for others, this is different. Finally we have something dominating the news that is not all about what the President wants it to be. It's all about Trump, but it's a welcome departure from his line of BS. NOW we are starting to see the reality behind the BS, and let me tell you. It is not good for the President.
If Republicans want to go against the facts that's their business. It wouldn't be the first time. All Democrats can do is make their best case and let the American public decide. Even if Republicans do not remove Trump from office the Republican reputation damage will be done and the people will have the right to remove him in 2020. And if the Republicans go the wrong way on this, the people will remove them too in 2020.
Republicans better choose wisely. They could get dumped by the curb.
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