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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    So when you impeached Clinton for a lying under oath about a blowjob was it a coup attempt?
    Or is it a coup attempt only when Dems do it to the Orange criminal for bribing foreign governments
    to attack opposing politicians?

    You fat dumbass old hick. Go beat your wife, hillbilly.

    A coup is when you storm the fucking bastille and axe the heads of the aristocrats. It's not due process hearings specifically authorized by the duly enacted
    US Constitution.
    Pencil neck and his mongrels haven't done anything yet "by the Constitution".
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    Quote Originally Posted by katzgar View Post
    you're I'm a moron
    Yes, you are.

    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    So when you impeached Clinton for a lying under oath about a blowjob was it a coup attempt?
    So when Nadler said that Republicans were lowering the standard for impeachment, but now says we need to impeach Trump for far less, is that hypocrisy?

    Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    "A well-constituted court for the trial of impeachments .... The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or, in other words, from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated POLITICAL, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself."
    That's not a coup de etat, ignorant hillbillies, it is a public inquest of public men abusing power expressly authorized.
    HYPOCRITE Pelosi
    Impeachment: The Speech Nancy Pelosi Wished She Never Gave

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    There's no misconduct.
    Well, there is.....on the part of the Democratic Party of the Jackass and their willing accomplices in the PHONY media.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    shut up dummy
    ^^assclown must be looking at a mirror.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    So when Nadler said that Republicans were lowering the standard for impeachment, but now says we need to impeach Trump for far less, is that hypocrisy?

    Jerry Nadler | We're Lowering the Standard of Impeachment
    Nadler, the nad-less wonder (just like Nomad that posts on here) is totally clueless, as usual.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven VanderMolen View Post
    Nadler, the nad-less wonder (just like Nomad that posts on here) is totally clueless, as usual.
    And as massive a hypocrite as he is in girth.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Yes, you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    coup
    /ko͞o/
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    noun
    noun: coup; plural noun: coups; noun: coup d'état; plural noun: coup d'états; plural noun: coups d'état

    1.
    a sudden, violent, and illegal seizure of power from a government.
    "he was overthrown in an army coup"
    Now, who can tell me why Trump's impeachment is not a coup?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Ever been through one?
    No. And Trump isn't going through one now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Now, who can tell me why Trump's impeachment is not a coup?
    Because Trump's not the one hiding in a bunker colluding with the media and a lying swamp plotting to take down a sitting President.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sailor View Post
    Yawn. Here, let me help you out. You do not represent any white people. You are too fucking stupid. You do not represent conservatives as they are not racist like you. Basically you just represent the rather small, inbred, uneducated trailer park voters. The ones everyone laughs at. And of course, it is well known on this board what a fucking coward and pussy you are.

    Says the one that claimed to own a business yet refuses to name it.

    It's clear she know how small the average black brain is. She must know you, Centerlft, and any of the rest of your kind on this forum.

    It's also clear that you represent the average coon. Dumb as a box of rocks and don't realize how dumb you are.

    Since you claim that I live in a trailer park, why haven't you shown up. To make that kind of statement means you know where it is or you're nothing more than a tough talking, do nothing black POS whose ancestors were slaves to superior white people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Trump impeachment is blueprint to overthrow government from within
    BY JENNA ELLIS RIVES, OPINION CONTRIBUTOR — 11/12/19 07:00 PM EST

    The House is ready to begin public hearings this week, furthering the partisan move by the Democrats to impeach President Trump in a blatant abuse of constitutional authority. Representative Adam Schiff said in a press conference, “These open hearings will be an opportunity for the American people to evaluate the witnesses for themselves and also to learn firsthand about the facts of the president’s misconduct.”

    There are several problems with this statement. First, Schiff is already characterizing the outcome of the investigation. As the chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, he serves as a key arbiter of the inquiry under the resolution. As such, he is in a position that demands an unbiased irreproachable ethic in evaluating requests for subpoenas and testimony. Any judge in a similar position would be required to recuse himself with even a hint of the pure bias Schiff has displayed, including coordination with the Ukraine whistleblower and other actions.

    The Democrats do not even pretend that their impeachment game is fair or actually about fact finding. This is simply about using a grant of power in the Constitution arbitrarily and politically, outside the bounds of due process and the purpose of that authority. Although the House does have the “sole power” of impeachment, that is a grant of jurisdiction, not a license to proceed on purely partisan motivation. Article One must work coordinately and not inconsistently with Article Two, which provides the legal basis upon which a sitting president may be impeached.

    Second, Schiff demonstrates this is all about media play in the court of public opinion. Voters have no power or responsibility in an impeachment proceeding. The drafters of the Constitution intended the impeachment and removal process to be exercised only when there was sufficient evidence that the subject of the impeachment had committed a legally qualifying offense. This is not about whether impeachment is popular in the polls or whether a majority of Americans prefer it. Transparency in the context of this quasi judicial process is to provide fundamental fairness and due process for the president. Why are the Democrats so hellbent on blatantly refusing to allow Republican subpoenas and witnesses?

    It is because it is a sham. Yet the Democrats are openly admitting that their goal is to try this in the media and attempt to dishonestly convince us that somehow we too should hate Donald Trump. They are hoping to convince us not to vote for him. That is not a legitimate or constitutional purpose of an impeachment. It is rather ironic that they claim his “crime” is an alleged quid pro quo to gain political advantage, while they are manipulating the power of impeachment for their political advantage. It is Schiff and other Democrats like House Speaker Nancy Pelosi who should be impeached. There is an actual constitutional basis for that.

    Third, Schiff is proving beyond doubt that this entire impeachment is merely a coordinated partisan attack against President Trump and, even more importantly, against the government of the United States. There was a bipartisan effort was against impeachment, with two Democrats and all Republicans in the House voting against the inquiry. The Democrats are abusing the power of impeachment and, if they are allowed to move forward, they are not only setting a terrible precedent that impeachment can be wielded as a political weapon that it was never intended to be, but also attacking the Constitution and undermining the rule of law.

    In the Federalist Papers, Alexander Hamilton explained the problem of political motivation with the power of impeachment. He wrote, “A well constituted court for the trial of impeachments, is an object not more to be desired than difficult to be obtained in a government wholly elective. The subjects of its jurisdiction are those offenses which proceed from the misconduct of public men, or in other words from the abuse or violation of some public trust. They are of a nature which may with peculiar propriety be denominated political, as they relate chiefly to injuries done immediately to the society itself. The prosecution of them, for this reason, will seldom fail to agitate the passions of the whole community, and to divide it into parties, more or less friendly or inimical, to the accused.”

    He was right. Schiff and Pelosi are not interested in real demonstrations of innocence or guilt. Their only interest is staging a political coup against their adversaries. But this is even bigger than the president. This is an attempt to overthrow the federal government from the inside.
    https://thehill.com/opinion/white-ho...nt-from-within
    The discretion of congress is all that matters in an impeachment hearing. They can impeach for whatever reason they want to, be they political or whatever. The meaning of "high crimes and misdemeanors" is decided solely by the hearing, it isn't necessarily restrained by preexisting legal boundaries, although usually as a matter of form legal arguments are devised. It would be almost impossible to meet such a standard to the satisfaction of Trumpists anyway, as they are of the opinion that the president can't violate the law; if impeachment could only happen after a clear violation of the law, and the president is immune from the law, obviously impeachment would be meaningless.

    The word of the impeachment court is final, there is no appeal. You cannot claim due process violations here, Trump has no right to be president. The due process is the one described in the constitution. It has a clear beginning, and ending. There is, intentionally, no wiggle room.

    This is an attempt to overthrow the federal government from the inside.
    You are the ones clearly laying the groundwork for how you will justify ignoring the constitution and holding onto power after impeachment despite the obvious finality of the constitution on the subject.

    The person being impeached doesn't have any power to dispute the impeachment or argue about it. The founders intended for congresses word to be absolute in this regard, this is a power of congress at congresses sole discretion. The presidents protection is that it's damn difficult to actually ever get the necessary votes to pull it off. Obviously if the president had the power to dispute the impeachment and ignore it if he didn't agree with the legal reasoning or whatever, it would render the power toothless. The person being impeached is *never* going to to agree with the reasoning behind the impeachment and just quietly siphon off, literally this has never happened once in history.
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