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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "WASHINGTON (AP) — The Supreme Court said Tuesday that a survivor and relatives of victims of the Sandy Hook Elementary School shooting can pursue their lawsuit against the maker of the rifle used to kill 26 people."

    "The justices rejected an appeal from Remington Arms that argued it should be shielded by a 2005 federal law preventing most lawsuits against firearms manufacturers when their products are used in crimes."

    "The case is being watched by gun control advocates, gun rights supporters and gun manufacturers across the country, as it has the potential to provide a roadmap for victims of other mass shootings to circumvent the federal law and sue the makers of firearm."

    "The court’s order allows the lawsuit filed in Connecticut state court by a survivor and relatives of nine victims who died at the Newtown, Connecticut, school on Dec. 14, 2012, to go forward."

    "The lawsuit says the Madison, North Carolina-based company should never have sold a weapon as dangerous as the Bushmaster AR-15-style rifle to the public. Gunman Adam Lanza used it to kill 20 first graders and six educators."

    https://apnews.com/8755008e727a4a1b804cdf5cf03ab620

    About time, hope they win the case, anybody who makes, manufactures, markets, and sells weapons as an AR15 for pure profit should be held accountable, the purpose of the weapon is to kill as much as it can in the shortest period of time

    I can see liability insurance a requirement for gun ownership down the road, gun huggers can't complain, none of it "confiscates" guns nor bans guns
    awesome!

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Ah, no, it was the SCOTUS, it was on appeal from the Connecticut Supreme Court, the byline was from "Washington," but here it is from a second source (https://thehill.com/regulation/court...n-lawsuit-from)

    Well, if they win the lawsuit, it will put some manufactures out of business, the price of your toys will skyrocket

    And if the law did evolve to treating guns as it does autos you will follow, it won't be a 24hr change and what are you going do, baracade yourself in your house
    It will be appealed, count on it.

    I have all the guns I need, quite a few more, actually. If the prices rise, it's all the more I'll get for the ones I'd sell.

    Nope. I will NOT follow. Only 4 of them are registered, I would sell them. I would carry on doing as I do now, hunting and shooting on private lands.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Right, and you are one of those that have told us in the past the SCOTUS would never rule anything against guns especially with the Trump Court
    I never said anything of the sort you dishonest lying dumb fuck. FIND THAT QUOTE asshole.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And on what grounds will they appeal? You just don't say "I appeal" and the higher Court takes the case, especially since now the Federal Law doesn't aply
    A gun was STOLEN from a mother by her underage son. It was used to murder her. It was used to murder children. Suggesting that a GUN manufacturer should be liable for the illegal use of their product is the pinnacle of stupidity.

    If this were the precedent, ALL weapons manufacturers might as well close shop now.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    It will be appealed, count on it.

    I have all the guns I need, quite a few more, actually. If the prices rise, it's all the more I'll get for the ones I'd sell.

    Nope. I will NOT follow. Only 4 of them are registered, I would sell them. I would carry on doing as I do now, hunting and shooting on private lands.
    its OVER

    fuck you


    you gonna KILL Americans now you evil fuck

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    Quote Originally Posted by OG Yurt View Post
    Your opinion does not reflect the Courts reasoning, at all. You're a fool.

    If a car manufacturer advertises their product to produce maximum speed, you would hold them liable if someone illegally broke the speed limit and killed someone.

    People like you belong in a communist government with a nanny all times of your existence.
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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Don't even know you, but you are incorrect, the SCOTUS ruled that the gun manufactures' defense that they couldn't be sued based upon a 2005 Federal law was erroneous, that the case could continue, a bad omen for the gun manufactures

    And once again, the primary purpose for an auto is to provide transportation, the main purpose of an AK15 is to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time, if you can't see the difference you never will understand the arguement
    I have a number of semi auto rifles, handguns and shotguns. Not one of their main purposes is to kill anyone since I've owned them (although I don't know what the military issued firearms were used for before I bought them, the exception being the National Match M-1). Remmington did not manufacture any firearms to be used in the killing of anyone, it's you who doesn't understand the argument.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    It will be appealed and struck down. Auto manufacturers can't be sued because drunk drivers kill people.
    Autos are not constructed by design to kill. The opposite is true of guns. Therefore the manufacturers should be held liable.

    You will have trouble grasping that , paleface. Haw, haw..............haw.
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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    It will be appealed, count on it.

    I have all the guns I need, quite a few more, actually. If the prices rise, it's all the more I'll get for the ones I'd sell.

    Nope. I will NOT follow. Only 4 of them are registered, I would sell them. I would carry on doing as I do now, hunting and shooting on private lands.
    You just don't appeal a case cause you what to appeal it, you have to have grounds, and with this decision the Federal Law that has long protected gun manufactures can't be used for an appeal. It is not good news for gun manufactures

    And nobody cares if you keep your toys, the goal is make future access to guns more difficult, your collection will become antiques some day, but keeping AK15 weapons out of the hands of dimwits won't unless something is done

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    Quote Originally Posted by evince View Post
    its OVER

    fuck you


    you gonna KILL Americans now you evil fuck
    LOL!!

    The psycho comes slobbering in

    Nope, it ain't over.

    I'd kill anyone who would want to kill me.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    No, alcohol's primary purpose isn't to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time
    Alcohol's primary purpose is to cause domestic violence and accidents ... often resulting in the deaths of innocents and doing great damage to children. The manufacturers need to be held responsible for all the families alcohol has destroyed.
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    Socialism is just the modern word for monarchy.

    D.C. has become a Guild System with an hierarchy and line of accession much like the Royal Court or priestly classes.

    Private citizens are perfectly able of doing a better job without "apprenticing".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Bigdog View Post
    Alcohol's primary purpose is to cause domestic violence and accidents ... often resulting in the deaths of innocents and doing great damage to children. The manufacturers need to be held responsible for all the families alcohol has destroyed.
    maybe in your family that is its purpose

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    You just don't appeal a case cause you what to appeal it, you have to have grounds, and with this decision the Federal Law that has long protected gun manufactures can't be used for an appeal. It is not good news for gun manufactures

    And nobody cares if you keep your toys, the goal is make future access to guns more difficult, your collection will become antiques some day, but keeping AK15 weapons out of the hands of dimwits won't unless something is done
    And you think those restrictions on responsible gun owners will help? Responsible gun owners aren't the problem, it seems crazed millennials are. Raise your kids properly, my parents did.
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    I think the four members who stated this lawsuit can proceed failed Constitutional law and a law passed by the Legislature defending the second amendment.

    (6) The possibility of imposing liability on an entire industry for harm that is solely caused by others is an abuse of the legal system, erodes public confidence in our Nation’s laws, threatens the diminution of a basic constitutional right and civil liberty, invites the disassembly and destabilization of other industries and economic sectors lawfully competing in the free enterprise system of the United States, and constitutes an unreasonable burden on interstate and foreign commerce of the United States.

    (b) PURPOSES.—The purposes of this Act are as follows:
    (1) To prohibit causes of action against manufacturers,distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and their trade associations, for the harm solely caused by the criminal or unlawful misuse of firearm products or ammunition products by others when the product functioned as designed and intended.

    (2) To preserve a citizen’s access to a supply of firearms and ammunition for all lawful purposes, including hunting,self-defense, collecting, and competitive or recreational shooting.

    (3) To guarantee a citizen’s rights, privileges, and immunities, as applied to the States, under the Fourteenth Amendment to the United States Constitution, pursuant to section 5 of that Amendment.

    (4) To prevent the use of such lawsuits to impose unreasonable burdens on interstate and foreign commerce.

    (5) To protect the right, under the First Amendment to the Constitution, of manufacturers, distributors, dealers, and importers of firearms or ammunition products, and trade associations, to speak freely, to assemble peaceably, and to petition the Government for a redress of their grievances.

    (6) To preserve and protect the Separation of Powers doctrine and important principles of federalism, State sovereignty and comity between sister States.

    (7) To exercise congressional power under article IV, section1 (the Full Faith and Credit Clause) of the United States Constitution.


    https://www.govinfo.gov/content/pkg/...119-Pg2095.pdf
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