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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    If Trump understands this, he is shitting in his pants. Watch his tweets and see if it 'shows up'.
    It will have to wait till Fox says something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    Keep us posted...I'm glad you're retired and have unlimited free time so that you can keep us all up-to-date on this "impotent stuff"
    Wow, you literally say this same type of thing enough to call it a dead horse catchphrase. Most times I've passed by in a discussion using this avatar you've said it. I've seen it so many times I need to mention it. You never start any discussions or really even discuss with others directly. Why are you even here? Keep us posted when your pull-string gets fixed, jeeze.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    But the country is going to suffer IMMEASURABLY. Not to mention Trump will RAPE AND PILLAGE everything he can possibly take and destroy between election day and JAN 20, 2020. Both are facts.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    I share your view, but Trump has got his fanatical base behind him, and this maybe the best that we can hope for, unfortunately.
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    Hello Centerleftfl,

    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Very interesting! You know about a month back, Lawrence O'Donnell alluded to a rule that could essentially fast track impeachment (?). If I understood what he was saying, he might have been talking about this. He was coy, grinned as he talked to--I think a sitting SEN. He didn't go into any detail and the person he was interviewing didn't seem to know what ODonnell was referring to. Remember O'Donnell worked for Daniel Patrick Moynihan who was one of the giants of the Senate. I wonder if this was it!

    If I were MC CONNELL I would sure as hell consider JUMPING ALL OVER THIS! NO, I am NOT speaking as a DEMOCRAT. If I were a REP SENATOR I would be all over this!! THINK ABOUT IT!

    (I'm making the URL REALLY BIG to POLITICO so the assholes here don't trash it because it came 'from' RAWSTORY!)

    Three GOP senators could force a rule change leading to Trump’s impeachment — here’s why McConnell might go for it



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    According to a column written for Politico by a former senior adviser to multiple Republican lawmakers, there is a path to forcing Donald Trump from office that would only require three GOP senators to join forces with the Democrats.

    Under the heading, “There’s a Surprisingly Plausible Path to Removing Trump From Office,” Juleanna Glover — who served as an adviser to former President George W. Bush and ex-Vice President Dick Cheney — laid out a simple way to force an impeachment vote that would be conducted in secret, freeing GOP senators to turn on the president without fear of repercussions.

    As she writes, “A secret impeachment ballot might sound crazy, but it’s actually quite possible. In fact, it would take only three senators to allow for that possibility.”

    “Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell has said he will immediately move to hold a trial to adjudicate the articles of impeachment if and when the Senate receives them from the House of Representatives. Article I, Section 3, of the Constitution does not set many parameters for the trial, except to say that ‘the Chief Justice shall preside,’ and ‘no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present,'” she explained. “That means the Senate has sole authority to draft its own rules for the impeachment trial, without judicial or executive branch oversight.”...

    McConnell could go for it just to save his own butt.

    Secret vote means no record of who voted how.

    McConnell has to vote just like all the other Senators. Anybody caught on the wrong side of the vote will have to answer for it the next time they are up for election. A secret vote removes that pressure. It's like a 'Don't pay a political price for your vote' card. Why take a chance when this is a "Get out of taking a chance free' card? All they have to do is play the card. It's right there.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Centerleftfl,



    McConnell could go for it just to save his own butt.

    Secret vote means no record of who voted how.

    McConnell has to vote just like all the other Senators. Anybody caught on the wrong side of the vote will have to answer for it the next time they are up for election. A secret vote removes that pressure. It's like a 'Don't pay a political price for your vote' card. Why take a chance when this is a "Get out of taking a chance free' card? All they have to do is play the card. It's right there.
    I bet those in favor could sway the foot-draggers by pointing out that it's well-known how vindictive Trump is; let's make it secret so he won't be able to go after you.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I bet those in favor could sway the foot-draggers by pointing out that it's well-known how vindictive Trump is; let's make it secret so he won't be able to go after you.
    They are certified COWARDS. Ballless. They might as well take the final step, take the private vote and GET RID OF TRUMP! Save their party even if they don't want save their country.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    They are certified COWARDS. Ballless. They might as well take the final step, take the private vote and GET RID OF TRUMP! Save their party even if they don't want save their country.
    Let's say the House impeaches, the Senate holds an open vote, and doesn't impeach. Do you see another blue wave next year?
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    you don't even have all the demmycrats........
    Isaiah 6:5
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Let's say the House impeaches, the Senate holds an open vote, and doesn't impeach. Do you see another blue wave next year?
    A PINK, BROWN and BLACK wave.
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    Hello John Barron,

    Quote Originally Posted by John Barron View Post
    This could also back fire on the dems. If trump is removed a lot of repubs that hate trump would return to the gop party.
    That's actually what we want.

    Conservatism is never going to be destroyed.

    We really need to understand that the balance between conservatism and liberalism is what makes America great. Each side depends on the other side to serve as a backdrop. That's the way the country works. Each side needs the other side to criticize it, make sure it doesn't get too full of itself, like the conservatives have done. The only thing to keep the conservatives in check is the liberals. And visa versa. Sure, the conservatives are melting down now, but in the future it could be the liberals. Each side serves as a check and a balance for the opposite side.

    By having the input from both sides, the country can make the best decisions for the long run. Yes, there will be short term mistakes like Trump. But in the long run that serves as a wake up call for the opposing side.

    Liberals just need to be careful they don't go too far left too fast or it will really kick the right into gear.

    And the same thing works the other way.

    Which is why we are impeaching Trump.
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    Hello Trumpet,

    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    John, I have also though about the point that you're making, and you maybe right, that if Trump stays in office till the next election, that might just benefit the Democrats.
    That will probably happen
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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    I don't either. You're not a TRUMP FOLLOWER?

    (I like the concept, the execution sucks. All the CRAPSHIT that has to pass before your eyes to get to the meat was more than I can stand. I 'undid' it last week. Admittedly I didn't probably know how to turn on all the filters, maybe I could have streamlined it.

    (One more picture of someone's lunch or parakeet and I was ready throw the phone across the car or into the ocean).
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    Hello Trumpet,

    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    I share your view, but Trump has got his fanatical base behind him, and this maybe the best that we can hope for, unfortunately.
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    Hello and Happy Impeachment Day ThatOwlWoman,

    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I bet those in favor could sway the foot-draggers by pointing out that it's well-known how vindictive Trump is; let's make it secret so he won't be able to go after you.
    Knowing him he'd probably take his vengeance out on anyone who votes to make the vote secret.
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