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    Default Australia bushfires, more greenwash bullshit

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    Despicable Greenies, whose motto is never let a good tragedy go to waste.

    The backlash begins

    The opportunistic greens are already crying “climate change” while firestorms rage and lives are potentially under threat

    Greens playing politics with fire, say Labor and Coalition
    Greg Brown, The Australian

    Greens leader Richard Di *Natale sparked fury from both major parties when he said the *nation’s emissions policy had caused the fires that killed three people and injured 100.

    Greens policies increasing bushfire threat, Barnaby Joyce says
    Greg Brown, The Australian

    “The problems we have got have been created by the Greens,” Mr Joyce told The Australian.

    “We haven’t had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy.

    “We don’t have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can’t knock over the trees because of Greens policy.

    Deputy Prime Minister Michael McCormack has lashed the “disgraceful, disgusting” behaviour of “raving inner-city lunatics” for linking climate change to the ferocious bushfires burning across Queensland and NSW.

    Spot the fuel
    Our hearts go out to those that have lost homes. But in every scene here, tree changers who never thought it would happen to them, were living with their $3000 bicycles in idyllic fire traps. How much were these folk misled by an ABC constantly reporting on climate change, and barely ever discussing fuel loads and almost never interviewing skeptics? Firefighters who recite the permitted “climate change” lines were put on a pedestal. Firefighters with data on fuel loads don’t get called.

    And why was that ABC journalist wearing brand new fluro fighting gear to interview the victims?

    http://joannenova.com.au/2019/11/opp...-carbon-taxes/

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    Stupid cunts like Moonshite are always looking to blame natural events on.climate change. The simple fact is that eco-loonys have made the problem a lot worse like in California.

    https://www.australiangeographic.com...alias-history/

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    Now Joan of Snark has become a scissor sista to Moonshite, let's wish them a happy Clitsmas!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
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    Stupid cunts like Moonshite are always looking to blame natural events on.climate change. The simple fact is that eco-loonys have made the problem a lot worse like in California.

    https://www.australiangeographic.com...alias-history/
    "like in Calofornia?"

    You are not going to regurgitate California not cleaning up shrub as the cause of their devastating fires again are you? If so, here's a hint for you so you don't look foolish, check to see who owns what percentage of land in California before you return

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "like in Calofornia?"

    You are not going to regurgitate California not cleaning up shrub as the cause of their devastating fires again are you? If so, here's a hint for you so you don't look foolish, check to see who owns what percentage of land in California before you return
    You really are a fool, you'd think that in the last few years of your life you'd wake the fuck up and stop spouting bullshit. Michael Shellenberger knows a damn sight more about California than you, sadly you're way too gone to listen to the voice of reason.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#1db57bd44cb6

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "like in Calofornia?"

    You are not going to regurgitate California not cleaning up shrub as the cause of their devastating fires again are you?
    Why yes...yes he is. It happens to be the truth.
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    If so, here's a hint for you so you don't look foolish, check to see who owns what percentage of land in California before you return
    Irrelevant.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    You really are a fool, you'd think that in the last few years of your life you'd wake the fuck up and stop spouting bullshit. Michael Shellenberger knows a damn sight more about California than you, sadly you're way too gone to listen to the voice of reason.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/michael.../#1db57bd44cb6
    Really;

    https://www.politifact.com/californi...-claim-califo/
    https://www.politifact.com/californi...aim-californi/
    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/tr...ias-wildfires/
    https://fortune.com/2019/11/06/trump...fact-checking/
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...act-check.html

    By the way, it is Trump's Federal Gov't that is the biggest public land owner in California, by far, the State owns less than four percent, the Federal Gov't close to sixty

    And you are aware that your source Shellenberger is not a climate denier

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Really;

    https://www.politifact.com/californi...-claim-califo/
    https://www.politifact.com/californi...aim-californi/
    https://www.factcheck.org/2019/11/tr...ias-wildfires/
    https://fortune.com/2019/11/06/trump...fact-checking/
    https://www.nytimes.com/aponline/201...act-check.html

    By the way, it is Trump's Federal Gov't that is the biggest public land owner in California, by far, the State owns less than four percent, the Federal Gov't close to sixty

    And you are aware that your source Shellenberger is not a climate denier
    Shut the fuck up Arsecheese, you're a doddering old fool. Of course I know who Shellenberger is, he's an environmentalist that's woke, unlike dinosaurs like you. Here are some facts for you, maybe you'll stop with your interminable bullshit?

    As California fires rage, nobody is taking responsibility for the unlimited “fuel” for the fires. Rather than addressing ways to reduce the amount of “fuel” awaiting the next spark, homeless campfire, or lightning strike, California Governor Newsom’s solution is for more litigation and a reorganization of a utility company to prevent devastating wildfires.

    It’s a shared responsibility of all parties as to why we’ve accumulated so much fuel for a fire and continue to allow its growth. Specifically, the Federal regulations forbid forest management, and builders continue to build wood tinder box homes adjacent to the Federal stockpile of “fuel” for any fires in the forest, and homeowners do very little to fireproof their homes sitting amongst all that “fuel” for the fire.

    Obama-era forestry restructuring regulations from 2012 waylaid already established preventative maintenance measures that could have averted power outages and raging conflagrations resulting in the need for people to be relocated to safer grounds at the expense of the federal government.

    Rather than taking responsibility for decades of policies that avoided safety precautions like careful and controlled burning, Governor Gavin Newsom is blaming PG&E for not stepping up to solve the mess caused by previous bad public and private management. How will forcing PG&E to shoulder the financial burden of preventing and cleaning up after California fires affect consumers, and reduce the fuel awaiting the next spark?

    The California Public Utilities Commission (CPUC) sets the rates for consumers, NOT PG&E, that utility companies can charge their customers. Recently the CPUC granted the authority to all California utility companies to shut down services where it deems those services create a public hazard. In addition, Governor Newsom’s own government forces the company to buy expensive unstable, unreliable alternative electricity sources for billions more than cheap coal, nuclear power and natural gas.

    Today, electric utility companies up and down the state have all implemented Public Safety Power Shutoff (PSPS) events, aka rolling blackouts, as a last line of defense against electric service disruption and possible massive wildfires to vulnerable communities caused by utility equipment. By definition: A PSPS is limited to necessary areas on risk assessment, and only when absolutely required to protect life and property.

    Power companies have done everything they can to oblige with liberal policies from funneling billions of dollars into “renewable” wind and solar technology to shutting off power for millions of customers, severely cutting their bottom line. But they cannot be expected to fill the gap left behind by irresponsible leadership, especially when the money that they’ve lost due to California’s “progressive” energy policies could have been dedicated to fireproofing efforts and forest management.

    California wants a modern grid to support the state’s goal of 100 percent renewable electricity but being unable to generate that electricity in-state, California already imports 29 percent of its electricity needs from other states. The bad news is that imported electricity comes at higher costs and those costs are being borne by residents and businesses alike. California households are already paying 50 percent more, and industrial users are paying more than double the national average for electricity.

    Imported electricity from other states will be growing exponentially over the coming years as California will be shutting down its last zero emission nuclear generating plant at Diablo Canyon and closing three natural gas power plants in Southern California. These in-state closures will most likely be resulting in exponentially increases in the cost of electricity in the years ahead.

    Governor Newsom’s is proud of his Wildfire Liability Bill AB 1054 that requires rate payers, yes you the public, to pay $10.5 billion into a new fund that utilities could access if a fire caused by their equipment resulted in more than $1 billion in property damage! The State of California is developing the blueprint for a transformed utility. Consistent with AB 1054, PG&E must incorporate that blueprint into its bankruptcy plan. Its all about money for lawsuits, with no need to reduce any of the fuel that feeds the fires.

    The bankruptcy judge overseeing PG&E’s perilous condition after paying out billions of dollars in claims on wildfires of the past few years, has been treating the utility like it is a criminal enterprise being run by the mafia. Instead of creating rulings that would allow them to extricate themselves from Chapter 11, Bankruptcy Judge Dennis Montali has been more interested in tacking additional claims costs on PG&E than solving their financial problems.

    PG&E safely maintains approximately 81,000 miles of overhead distribution lines and approximately 26,000 miles of underground distribution lines across its service area. PG&E’s electric transmission system is about 18,000 miles, the majority of which are overhead lines. Newer developments tend to have underground power, but at a cost of up to $3 million dollars a mile to convert overhead to underground distribution, the cost to go underground for 81,000 miles would be almost $250 BILLION (Yes, that’s a “B”)!

    For an administration trying to shirk blame, a big corporation makes the perfect scapegoat. But forcing our energy companies to try to make up for bad public and private policies will increase costs for everyone, pushing all Californians closer into poverty and homelessness, all while shutting down power lines, cutting access for millions.

    It’s no wonder PG&E is bankrupt. If our current leadership has its way, the rest of the state will soon follow as the stockpile of fuel keeps growing to fuel that next fire.

    Ron Stein is an engineer who, drawing upon 25 years of project management and business development experience, launched PTS Advance in 1995. He is an author, engineer, and energy expert who writes frequently on issues of energy and economics.
    https://www.cfact.org/2019/11/11/mes...ility-company/
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    “We haven’t had the capacity to easily access (hazard) reduction burns because of all of the paperwork that is part of green policy.

    “We don’t have access to dams because they have been decommissioned on national parks because of green policy. We have trees that have fallen over vehicles and block roads, so people cannot either get access to fight a fire or to get away from fires. And we can’t knock over the trees because of Greens policy.
    (mostly) like in California

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    (mostly) like in California
    The stupid eco-twats are shutting down all the gas CCGT power stations, and plan to shut El Diablo the last nuclear plant. They already have the highest electricity prices and import nearly 30% from out of state suppliers. California is screwed unless they wake the fuck up.
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    Fires in California are started by pot heads.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    The stupid eco-twats are shutting down all the gas CCGT power stations, and plan to shut El Diablo the last nuclear plant. They already have the highest electricity prices and import nearly 30% from out of state suppliers. California is fucked unless they wake the fuck up.
    which is very much like the greens in Australia - your op

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    which is very much like the greens in Australia - your op
    Yes, sadly Greenies are naive and scientifically illiterate, driven by emotion not logic.

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