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    Default BRK'G: 2017 TRUMP held up Javelin missiles to UKRAINE "for fear of RUSSIAN reaction."

    This is NEW. Apparently one Ms. Catherine Croft of the Pentagon with particular expertise in that area of the world and sending Javelins to Ukraine, testified I assume FRI. Her transcript was released expressing concerns by the Pentagon as to why MULVANEY (who had no reason to be anywhere NEAR THIS) had a hold put on those JAVELIN missiles 2 years ago. This wasn't Mulvaney. It was Trump and everyone here knows it!

    What we don't know is if TRUMP MIGHT HAVE CALLED VLAD and asked his opinion!! Out of the realm of possibility? Think about it!


    Mulvaney’s OMB Held Up Lethal Ukraine Aid in 2017 for Fear of Russian Reaction

    “[It] was rather unusual to have OMB expressing concerns that were purely policy-based and not budget-oriented,” former White House official Catherine Croft told investigators.

    Betsy Swan

    Political Reporter

    Updated 11.11.19 6:28PM ET / Published 11.11.19 6:02PM ET



    Leah Millis/Reuters

    Under Mick Mulvaney’s leadership, the Office of Management and Budget temporarily put a hold on the delivery of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine in 2017 because of concerns their arrival would upset Russia, according to former White House official Catherine Croft. She described OMB’s objection as “highly unusual.”

    “[It] was rather unusual to have OMB expressing concerns that were purely policy-based and not budget-oriented,” she said.

    “What was the concern about the Russian reaction?” asked the staffer.

    “That Russia would react negatively to the provision of Javelins to Ukraine,” she said.


    “At the beginning of the Ukrainian Javelin process, I had been told that OMB was taking a policy interest,” she continued. “And OMB began sending working level officials to attend meetings... which was very unusual at the time.”

    She noted that OMB staff also started attending meetings regarding aid to countries besides Ukraine and that the increase in their involvement was “quite taxing on a very small organization. Mulvaney and several other OMB officials have refused to participate in the congressional impeachment inquiry.


    https://www.thedailybeast.com/mulvan...ssian-reaction


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    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Yeah. We don't want to offend the Russians as they invade Ukraine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Yeah. We don't want to offend the Russians as they invade Ukraine.

    That might be MORE scary than withholding funds last summer. Think about it. PUTIN knows or DOESN'T know we haven't released the Javelins. Europe MAY or may NOT know. The Pentagon can't say. State Dept. can't say. If any European countries ask, what were they told? Neither State or Defense can tip our hand for fear Putin makes an aggressive move knowing Ukraine doesn't have the weapons. And no one knows what TRUMP has told him!

    The Trump Doctrine?
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Fucking IDIOTS, NEVER KNOW SHIT ABOUT ANYTHING, BESIDES THE LIES THE FAKE NEWS SPOON FEEDS THEM....yawwwwnnnnn….






    Arms for Ukraine UNDER OBAMA


    Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ew-c-mccarthy/



    Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all


    https://nypost.com/2019/10/09/sorry-...kraine-at-all/

    ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------




    ARMS FOR UKRAINE UNDER TRUMP:






    Trump gives green light to selling lethal arms to Ukraine


    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...les-to-ukraine


    US announces sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine over Russian opposition


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=53450406



    Ukraine Tests Lethal Weapons Donald Trump Sent to Combat Russia

    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-tes...helping-941197



    Washington Quietly Increases Lethal Weapons to Ukraine

    https://www.cato.org/publications/co...eapons-ukraine



    STUPID FUCKS
    .
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    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    Fucking IDIOTS, NEVER KNOW SHIT ABIUT ANTHING, BESIDES THE LIES THE FAKE NEWS SPOON FEEDS THEM....yawwwwnnnnn….


    Arms for Ukraine UNDER OBAMA


    Obama Won’t Arm Ukraine Because He Led the Disarming of Ukraine

    https://www.nationalreview.com/corne...ew-c-mccarthy/



    Sorry, Joe: Team Obama refused to arm Ukraine at all


    https://nypost.com/2019/10/09/sorry-...kraine-at-all/

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    ARMS FOR UKRAINE UNDER TRUMP:






    Trump gives green light to selling lethal arms to Ukraine


    https://thehill.com/policy/internati...les-to-ukraine


    US announces sale of anti-tank missiles to Ukraine over Russian opposition


    https://abcnews.go.com/International...ry?id=53450406



    Ukraine Tests Lethal Weapons Donald Trump Sent to Combat Russia

    https://www.newsweek.com/ukraine-tes...helping-941197



    Washington Quietly Increases Lethal Weapons to Ukraine

    https://www.cato.org/publications/co...eapons-ukraine

    STUPID FUCKS .
    LOOK AT THE DATES ON YOUR OWN ARTICLES 'STUPID FUCK'. Starting with the first to 'trash' Obama, 5 years ago. 3 years before TRUMP was sworn in. He owned it then.

    And it is IMMATERIAL WTF you and I think, the woman who TESTIFIED wanted to know WTF was going on in 2017! Tell her she is a STUPID FUCK.
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    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    LOOK AT THE DATES ON YOUR OWN ARTICLES 'STUPID FUCK'.
    From 2017 THROUGH 2019 STUPID FUCK, UNDER TRUMP






    OBAMA NEVER SOLD ARMS TO UKRAINE....FROM THE RUSSIAN INVASION ON.(2014) STUPID FUCK.

    THEY COVER FROM 2014-2019, Obama and Trump BOTH.


    IOW..the WHOLE TRUTH, STUPID FUCK.


    Your widdo mind can't process the FACTS? What else is new?
    Last edited by Grokmaster; 11-12-2019 at 12:44 AM.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    “At the beginning of the Ukrainian Javelin process, I had been told that OMB was taking a policy interest,” she continued. “And OMB began sending working level officials to attend meetings... which was very unusual at the time.”

    She noted that OMB staff also started attending meetings regarding aid to countries besides Ukraine and that the increase in their involvement was “quite taxing on a very small organization

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    JPP.
    "all the Raw Sewage you can swallow and more"

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    JPP.
    "all the Raw Sewage you can swallow and more"
    It's like they NEVER CHECK OUT/RESEARCH ANYTHING.....BUNCHA TWITS.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
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    That might be MORE scary than withholding funds last summer. Think about it. PUTIN knows or DOESN'T know we haven't released the Javelins. Europe MAY or may NOT know. The Pentagon can't say. State Dept. can't say. If any European countries ask, what were they told? Neither State or Defense can tip our hand for fear Putin makes an aggressive move knowing Ukraine doesn't have the weapons. And no one knows what TRUMP has told him!
    you fucking idiot, this was all new - 2017 - selling offensive weapons to Ukraine. Obama only upgraded some few defensive weapons (like Ukraine communications) -Trump decided to arm the Ukraine militias

    So sending some OMB types to look at the situation prior was normal protocol. Stop posting Raw Sewage

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post

    That might be MORE scary than withholding funds last summer. Think about it. PUTIN knows or DOESN'T know we haven't released the Javelins. Europe MAY or may NOT know. The Pentagon can't say. State Dept. can't say. If any European countries ask, what were they told? Neither State or Defense can tip our hand for fear Putin makes an aggressive move knowing Ukraine doesn't have the weapons. And no one knows what TRUMP has told him!

    The Trump Doctrine?
    Trump Doctrine: "Hey, you guys want Syria, no problem".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Trump Doctrine: "Hey, you guys want Syria, no problem".
    who are "you guys"? Assad? Russia? Turkey's border "safe zones" or Iran/Hebollah ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    It's like they NEVER CHECK OUT/RESEARCH ANYTHING.....BUNCHA TWITS.
    live by the swill of raw sewage.....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    It's like they NEVER CHECK OUT/RESEARCH ANYTHING.....BUNCHA TWITS.
    4 year old ARTICLES. Kiss Obama's ass. Suck Trump's.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
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    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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