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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Isn't it defined better by ppl who are keeping to older traditions and interpretations, than more modern ones?
    no, conservative judaism is egalitarian and makes concessions in the practice of judaism, such as driving on the sabbath , men and women sit together in shul, has a lot of female rabbis and is politically progressive


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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    No, modern orthodox and conservative judaism are the majority of Jews in the united states and we stress education and knowledge , thus high high viability in medicine sciences and the law , in addition It was also due to Jews being kept out of other pursuits

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Orthodox_Judaism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Judaism
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Isn't it defined better by ppl who are keeping to older traditions and interpretations, than more modern ones?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    no, conservative judaism is egalitarian and makes concessions in the practice of judaism, such as driving on the sabbath , men and women sit together in shul, has a lot of female rabbis and is politically progressive


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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Lol. I'd go just to laugh at it but not for $75/ticket.
    I have always had a hankering to take the grand tour of the institutions of Southern ignorance: Noah's Ark Experience, Creation Science Museum, Liberty University.

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    No, modern orthodox and conservative judaism are the majority of Jews in the united states and we stress education and knowledge , thus high high viability in medicine sciences and the law , in addition It was also due to Jews being kept out of other pursuits

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Modern_Orthodox_Judaism

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservative_Judaism
    Agree. My point, especially given that the sampling was only 837 Jews, is that none of those ultra religious were contacted for this poll.

    In '14, there were about 1.9 million Hasidics in the U.S.. There are thousands more now, albeit not of age to declare education level.

    Many in my family are/were lawyers/doctors. Upper level education was a given, with no option to fail at same.

    None of which negates the fact that polls are inherently flawed. The sampling for Christians was almost 7 times that of Jews.
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    Quote Originally Posted by christiefan915 View Post
    Lol. I'd go just to laugh at it but not for $75/ticket.
    That's what a ticket there costs? No wonder it's in financial trouble. How many fundies can afford that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    no, conservative judaism is egalitarian and makes concessions in the practice of judaism, such as driving on the sabbath , men and women sit together in shul, has a lot of female rabbis and is politically progressive


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    Which describes Reform Judaism decades ago. These days, Conservative Judaism is coming closer to Reform.
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    Until the war on science by the right is stopped, they will be disregarded by suburban college educated. Their trade
    is the adoration of the ignorant bible losers. I don't know how the numbers break out on that tradeoff but I do know one thing,

    we are right and they are sick wrong and they make shit stupid policy because of it. If Jesus was alive he'd cry. He was in agreement with the atheists
    and moderates and he knows the fake Christians using his name blaspheme every time they invoke his name.

    My guess it Jesus was not a stupid fucking loser moron and he would have embraced science, would that he were alive in this day and age.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Until the war on science by the right is stopped, they will be disregarded by suburban college educated. Their trade
    is the adoration of the ignorant bible losers. I don't know how the numbers break out on that tradeoff but I do know one thing,

    we are right and they are sick wrong and they make shit stupid policy because of it. If Jesus was alive he'd cry. He was in agreement with the atheists
    and moderates and he knows the fake Christians using his name blaspheme every time they invoke his name.

    My guess it Jesus was not a stupid fucking loser moron and he would have embraced science, would that he were alive in this day and age.
    After that unpleasantness during the Inquisition, even the Catholics decided that they could be friends with science. I'm not really sure why things like modern technology, vaccines, printed books, and so on are so threatening to our fundie friends on the right.

    As far as the OP goes, dismantling clean water/air protections are going to affect those the most who can't afford to move away from polluted areas. Guess which voters those will most likely be?

    GOP: Shooting itself in the foot since 1854.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    After that unpleasantness during the Inquisition, even the Catholics decided that they could be friends with science. I'm not really sure why things like modern technology, vaccines, printed books, and so on are so threatening to our fundie friends on the right.

    As far as the OP goes, dismantling clean water/air protections are going to affect those the most who can't afford to move away from polluted areas. Guess which voters those will most likely be?

    GOP: Shooting itself in the foot since 1854.
    Marin County (other side of the GG Bridge, North of SF) is about as wealthy, white, educated and politically liberal an area as you'll find in this country. Yet there is a huge anti-vaccine movement there. If being anti-vaccine is an ignorant fundamental right wing position why would so many wealthy, educated and liberal folks have the same position?

    Edit: Looks like it's not just Marin.

    ""According to the new study, very high numbers of NMEs were reported in “progressive” cities like Seattle, Wash.; Austin, Texas; and Portland, Ore.,""

    https://allianceforscience.cornell.e...umstudy-finds/

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Marin County (other side of the GG Bridge, North of SF) is about as wealthy, white, educated and politically liberal an area as you'll find in this country. Yet there is a huge anti-vaccine movement there. If being anti-vaccine is an ignorant fundamental right wing position why would so many wealthy, educated and liberal folks have the same position?

    Edit: Looks like it's not just Marin.

    ""According to the new study, very high numbers of NMEs were reported in “progressive” cities like Seattle, Wash.; Austin, Texas; and Portland, Ore.,""

    https://allianceforscience.cornell.e...umstudy-finds/
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    People are idiots despite political leaning.
    There is definitely that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    Marin County (other side of the GG Bridge, North of SF) is about as wealthy, white, educated and politically liberal an area as you'll find in this country. Yet there is a huge anti-vaccine movement there. If being anti-vaccine is an ignorant fundamental right wing position why would so many wealthy, educated and liberal folks have the same position?

    Edit: Looks like it's not just Marin.

    ""According to the new study, very high numbers of NMEs were reported in “progressive” cities like Seattle, Wash.; Austin, Texas; and Portland, Ore.,""

    https://allianceforscience.cornell.e...umstudy-finds/
    This just kills me. People in third world countries would do anything to prevent their kids from getting illnesses that could be prevented by vaccines, while some people here are taking several steps backwards in regards to them. Some still believe the debunked theory that vaccines lead to autism. Jenny McCarthy comes to mind.


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