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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Another thing you got wrong, AssHeadZombie. You want to try again or would you rather just suck Trump's dick some more?



    nah. im right. you love deep state and banker oligarchs. and satan.

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    churches are masonic scams, but good, evil, and spirituality are all real.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    nah. im right. you love deep state and banker oligarchs. and satan.
    Nah. You're wrong. I don't even know what the deep state is. Did you make it up or did Sean Insannity tell you about it.
    But hey, go ahead and believe what helps you sleep at night rather than the truth. You're pretty good at that and probably why you believe so much of the bullshit you read on the radicalized right wing websites.

    de·lu·sion·al | dəˈlo͞oZH(ə)nəl | adjective
    characterized by or holding idiosyncratic beliefs or impressions that are contradicted by reality or rational argument, typically as a symptom of mental disorder: hospitalization for schizophrenia and delusional paranoia | he was diagnosed with a delusional disorder.
    • based on or having faulty judgment; mistaken: their delusional belief in the project's merits never wavers | I think the guy is being a bit delusional here.


    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Nihilism? It's got nothing to do with nihilism, dude. That's an extreme way to look at it. Of course, you being a radicalized extremist, it makes sense that you chose that word.

    I love America. I hate the government.
    Why? Don't you get enough free stuff?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Why? Don't you get enough free stuff?
    Nah, wealthy people don't get free stuff, Gomer.

    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Trump and his GOP defenders can continue their crusade against the procedures Democrats are using, but those procedures were authorized and utilized by Republicans first.

    Last week, President Donald J. Trump complained that he would be getting “no lawyer” and “no due process” during the House impeachment hearings, set to begin Wednesday.
    The irony of course is that if Trump is unhappy with how the impeachment process is unfolding, he has mostly Republicans to blame. After all, they are the ones who have written the rules that impeachment investigations follow.

    After weeks of Republican demands for a vote on an impeachment resolution, the House of Representatives did just that and approved, along party lines, a resolution that establishes the procedural guidelines for the impeachment investigation of Trump. House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff announced that public hearings will commence Wednesday.
    The impeachment process Democrats just approved, and which Trump will doubtless spend the next several weeks slamming publicly, is the same process Republicans have used to govern their oversight investigations during the past three decades. The GOP has controlled the majority of the House's investigative powers for 20 of the last 25 years. (And I spent five of those years working at the House Oversight Committee as a spokesperson and a senior adviser under the chairmanship of Republican Darrell Issa, R-Calif.)

    Trump might label this an attack on “due process,” but his fight isn’t with Speaker Nancy Pelosi or Schiff, it’s with the Republican-led investigative committees who instituted this precedent during their investigations of President Bill Clinton’s administration in 1997 and 1998. That practice was extended in the 112th, 113th, 114th and 115th congresses.
    For all Trump’s griping about lawyers, the House impeachment inquiry isn’t a trial at all. But the reason he won’t have a lawyer representing his interests in the hearings is because Republicans made a point to continue the procedure during the Benghazi investigation. During that investigation, Republican committee members approved rules specifically stipulating that “counsel … for agencies under investigation may not attend.”
    We’ve seen this pattern of Trump and Republicans objecting to rules they created consistently throughout the impeachment investigation.

    In recent weeks, House Republicans have extended a lot of energy and rhetoric railing against “closed-door depositions.” Yet, according to a report released by congressional investigative experts at Co-Equal, a group intended to help Congress remain a check on the executive branch, House Republicans conducted depositions of more than 140 administration officials during their impeachment inquiry of Clinton. While the Trump administration has tried to obstruct the current impeachment investigation by blocking witnesses from appearing for depositions, during the Benghazi inquiry alone, House Republicans took testimony from more than 60 career employees who served under President Barack Obama.

    Even much of the authority to conduct depositions for investigations stemmed from Republicans. Republicans first gave this authority to a congressional committee during the Clinton investigation, then expanded it to the House Oversight Committee in 2011, and again in 2014 as part of the Benghazi probe, again in 2015 to include four additional committees, and finally in 2017 to include all House congressional committees. (Previously, “depositions had been authorized by the House only for specific investigations.”)
    Interestingly enough, the effort to expand deposition authority to all congressional committees was spear-headed by Reps. Jim Jordan and former Rep. Mike Pompeo who said, “The ability to interview witnesses in private allows committees to gather information confidentially and in more depth than is possible under the five-minute rule governing committee hearings. This ability is often critical to conducting an effective and thorough investigation.”

    This is the same Pompeo, who, as secretary of state, has refused to cooperate with the congressional investigation and the same Jordan, who, as the ranking member of the House Oversight Committee, has labeled the impeachment investigation a “sham process.” Jordan has yet to explain how this process is a “sham” when it’s being conducted under the very rules and powers that he specifically helped enact when he thought Hillary Clinton was going to be the president of the United States.
    Trump officials such as White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, acting-Office of Management and Budget Director Russ Vought, Energy Secretary Rick Perry, and Pompeo have refused to testify in a blatant act of obstruction, and yet, Republican chairs took 141 depositions from Clinton officials, including from two White House chiefs of staff, two White House counsels, the vice president’s chief of staff and the first lady’s chief of staff.

    The bottom line is Trump and his Republican defenders can continue their embarrassing crusade against the rules and procedures that Democrats are using, but the inescapable fact is those very rules and procedures were authorized and utilized by Republicans first. When the impeachment hearings begin Wednesday, congressional Democrats would be wise to remind Trump and his faithful servants that if they are looking for someone to blame, they need only to look in the mirror
    TOTAL FUCKING LIE.


    Clinton's ATTORNEYS were PRESENT FOR ALL TESTIMONY , ALLOWED TO CROSS EXAMINE WOMEVER THEY CHOSE, and ALLOWED TO CALL EVERY WITNESS THEY WANTED.


    MAKEUP SOME MORE FUCKING LIES TO TRY TO COVER FOR THE STALIN-O-CRATS.


    THE PUBLIC INTERVIEWS WILL EXPOSE THE STALIN-O-CRATS' BULLSHIT, DESPITE THEIR THINKING THEY CAN FOOL THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY STACKING THE RULES AGAINST FAIRNESS...
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    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    TOTAL FUCKING LIE.


    Clinton ATTORNEYS were PRESENT FOR ALL TESTIMONY , ALLOWED TO CROSS EXAMINE WOMEVER THEY CHOSE< and ALLOWED TO CALL EVERY WITNESS THEY WANTED.


    MAKEUP SOME MORE FUCKING LIES TO TRY TO COVER FOR THE STLAIN-O-CRATS.


    THE PUBLIC INTERVIEWS WILL EXPOSE THE STALIN-O-CRATS' BULLSHIT, DEPSITE THEIR THINKING THEY CAN FOOLS THE AMERICAN PEOPLE BY STACKING THE RULES AGAINST FAIRNESS...
    Impeachment investigation vs impeachment. The Repugs had the same questioning time as the Dems did. This is being run by existing Republican rules.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Impeachment investigation vs impeachment. The Repugs had the same questioning time as the Dems did. This is being run by existing Republican rules.
    HORSE SHIT. IT was an IMPOEACHMENT INQUIRY OF CLINTON, ALSO, UNTIL THE HOUSE VOTED TO IMPEACH, and Clinton's people were allowed FULL ACCESS to CROSS, CALL WITENESSES, and HEAR ALL TESTIMONY.

    I WAS ALIVE WHEN IT HAPPENED, JUNIOR.


    MAKEUP SOME MORE BULLSHIT.
    Last edited by Grokmaster; 11-11-2019 at 01:42 PM.
    TRUMP WILL TAKE FORTY STATES...UNLESS THE SAME IDIOTS WHO BROUGHT US THE 2020 DUNCE-O-CRAT IOWA CLUSTERFUCK CONTINUE THEIR SEDITIOUS ACTIVITIES...THEN HE WILL WIN EVEN MORE ..UNLESS THE RED CHINESE AND DNC COLLUDE, USE A PANDEMIC, AND THEN THE DEMOCRATS VIOLATE ARTICLE II OF THE CONSTITUTION, TO FACILLITATE MILLIONS OF ILLEGAL, UNVETTED, MAIL IN BALLOTS IN THE DARK OF NIGHT..


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    Impeachment investigation vs impeachment. The Repugs had the same questioning time as the Dems did. This is being run by existing Republican rules.
    A noble effort to engage in discourse with Grokmasturbater but you are soon to be frustrated as he lacks the cognitive means to carry on a cogent debate (like knowing the difference between Impeachment investigation vs impeachment).

    I commend your attempt but I doubt it will end well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by DonaldvoTrumpovich View Post
    Nah, wealthy people don't get free stuff, Gomer.

    That is why he was asking you if you don't get enough free stuff.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    maybe, but the dems are still doing something altogether different.
    How so?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Callinectes Ocasio-Cortez View Post
    Why did this lynching attempt originate in the intelligence committee?
    Why not?

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    secret partisan meetings.
    Nothing secret about them, shitstain. The transcripts are flowing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grokmaster View Post
    HORSE SHIT. IT was an IMPOEACHMENT INQUIRY OF CLINTON, ALSO, UNTIL THE HOUSE VOTED TO IMPEACH, and Clinton's people were allowed FULL ACCESS to CROSS, CALL WITENESSES, and HEAR ALL TESTIMONY.

    I WAS ALIVE WHEN IT HAPPENED, JUNIOR.


    MAKEUP SOME MORE BULLSHIT.
    It was a following of the Starr commission which ran for a long time and investigated both Clintons. Not sure about Chelsea.The Dems had no input in that at all. You were sleeping back then, just as you are now. Why are you always so angry?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    It was a following of the Starr commission which ran for a long time and investigated both Clintons. Not sure about Chelsea.The Dems had no input in that at all. You were sleeping back then, just as you are now. Why are you always so angry?
    This is rich -- the GOP is up in arms about a constitutionally valid impeachment procedure because it supposedly is an attempt to "overturn an election", apparently because they care so much about election results. Then in Kentucky, they're trying to overturn an election because the results didn't go their way, using the absurd logic that the people who voted Libertarian would have voted for the Republican.

    But where was that argument in the Presidential elections of 2000 and 2016? In both, Democrats claimed that votes for 3rd party candidates would have gone to the Democrat -- and the GOP was OK with election results then... �� ...why does it feel as though the "principles" Republicans claim to hold so dear are really just convenient rationalizations to resurrect so they can do whatever they want?
    Republican Congressman Ken Buck:
    “We’re at a time in American politics, that I am not going to lie on behalf of my presidential candidate, on behalf of my party. And I’m very sad that others in my party have taken the position that, as long as we get the White House, it doesn’t really matter what we say,”



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