Uh oh, things just got A LOT worse for Trump, Rudy associate spills the beans

[Getin the ring]

True. But those FED boys and girls are pretty smart, they'll be sure he has 'the goods' before they cut and deals. (

right, just like Mueller did huh?

oh wait. so sorry

[Getin the ring]

Now with all that being said, I'm going to vote for the loser no matter who the nominee is, because there is no way anyone could be worse than Trump. However, I think a true Leftist outside of the establishment would have a much better chance of beating Trump than Biden would.

no one can beat Trump, that ship left the dock tiny

but I agree you should vote for whomever makes you feel all warm and cozy, after all your party needs a hug

[TTQ64]

Despite what the media says, ideas like universal health care and affordable college aren't really "far left" anymore because the majority of Americans now want these things. It's funny, most Americans identify as conservative, but when you actually talk to these people and look at studies on which policies have support, you see that most Americans actually are way more liberal than conservative.
Now it is true that the president needs to work with congress, but that's where compromise comes in. Maybe Andrew Yang can't get us $1000 a month, but he's able to get us $500. However, if the nominee is an establishment-approved Centrist, things stay the same, which doesn't motivate people to get out and vote. Hillary Clinton isn't terrible, but she's bad enough that people didn't care enough to come out in droves to vote for her.

Now with all that being said, I'm going to vote Democrat no matter who the nominee is, because there is no way anyone could be worse than Trump. However, I think a true Leftist outside of the establishment would have a much better chance of beating Trump than Biden would.

OMG we finally agree on something!

These things have never been "far left" it's the label given by the racist white man that made it far left.

[Grokmaster]

From your own link:




~ "...But Mr. Parnas’s account, while potentially significant, is being contradicted on several fronts. None of the people involved dispute that the meeting occurred, but Mr. Parnas stands alone in saying the intention was to present an ultimatum to the Ukrainian leadership. "~

EVERYDAY...you FALL FOR THE SAME BULLSHIT!! It'd be PATHETIC, if it weren't so FUNNY!!!

[Getin the ring]

Interesting that Democrats are trying to pretend they believe America will vote for a socialists,

the long time tenured Democrats know better, they are being overtaken by a radical agenda group of nut**bags.

I'm telling you as sure as we are sitting here The republicans are not only going to take the house back, Trump is our next President.

And Ivanka is next in line

[zymurgy]

While the first point you made is a foregone conclusion, the second point is a virtual certainty, and the third point is highly likely, the fourth point is not so clear.

Certainly his devoted base will come out in strength, but a lot of independents are as sick and tired of his nonsense as anyone else. And he can't win without a majority of the independent vote.

what the I's are sick of is the constant investigations - that aren't even being done fairly and openly. Nobody is looking favorably at how this is playing out accept the same idiots that though Rachel Maddow was reporting on Russia fairly.

[Stretch]

We have to get used to all this. Dems have to keep going with all kinds of people who have opinions
on Trump. And, they've got to keep this in the House where they have control.
They are now and will be just eating up time because THIS is their campaign. They don't want it all
to go to the Senate where the soap opera hits a dead end.
This is all they've got folks.

[StoneByStone]

no one can beat Trump, that ship left the dock tiny

but I agree you should vote for whomever makes you feel all warm and cozy, after all your party needs a hug

If you're going to change other people's quotes, then you're not worth talking to.

[Guno צְבִי]

Interesting that Democrats are trying to pretend they believe America will vote for a socialists,

the long time tenured Democrats know better, they are being overtaken by a radical agenda group of nut**bags.

I'm telling you as sure as we are sitting here The republicans are not only going to take the house back, Trump is our next President.

And Ivanka is next in line

As if Jews, minorities and progressive white people will vote for trump ie the growing demographic verses the bitter uneducated white christian base of trumps, ie the dying demographic and Americas new minority and subspecies

[PoliTalker]

Hello StoneByStone,

Granted, but most Independents didn't like him during the last election, either. What really won the election for Trump was the DNC running a Centrist establishment candidate that most Democrats and Independents were lukewarm about. And it looks like we're getting another Centrist establishment candidate this time in Joe Biden.

I'm sure there were a lot of people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary OR Trump who sat out the 2016 election; but whom would be motivated to vote for a centrist Dem candidate who wasn't carrying a crushing load of baggage like Hillary was. Especially if it means preventing 4 more years of Trump.

A Dem candidate could muster more new votes motivated simply to vote AGAINST the Republican candidate. The Republican candidate can't really attract many more votes than were already cast. There's no new pool of potential Trump voters out there, but there is a huge pool of potential NeverTrump voters.

[StoneByStone]

OMG we finally agree on something!

These things have never been "far left" it's the label given by the racist white man that made it far left.

Most of the countries that have these policies are majority white.

[Nomad]

Despite what the media says, ideas like universal health care and affordable college aren't really "far left" anymore because the majority of Americans now want these things. It's funny, most Americans identify as conservative, but when you actually talk to these people and look at studies on which policies have support, you see that most Americans actually are way more liberal than conservative.

Wanting them is one thing, believing we can afford them or that they would ever get passed into law is another thing altogether.

Now it is true that the president needs to work with congress, but that's where compromise comes in. Maybe Andrew Yang can't get us $1000 a month, but he's able to get us $500. However, if the nominee is an establishment-approved Centrist, things stay the same, which doesn't motivate people to get out and vote. Hillary Clinton isn't terrible, but she's bad enough that people didn't care enough to come out in droves to vote for her.

What makes you think Yang or anyone else is going to get the GOP to vote for a free $500 per month handout to every American, when they sabotaged Obamacare and refused to increase eligibility for Medicaid so that working people who can't afford private insurance could be covered? And this was in spite of conservative organisations like The Chamber of Commerce endorsing the plan?

Now with all that being said, I'm going to vote Democrat no matter who the nominee is, because there is no way anyone could be worse than Trump. However, I think a true Leftist outside of the establishment would have a much better chance of beating Trump than Biden would.

I'd rather see a solid Dem majority in both houses and let Trump suffer through that than put a twit like Warren or a self-interested BS artist and coronary in waiting like Sanders in the WH.

Biden still polls better than any other candidate against Trump.

Plus, keep in mind, Biden pulls in the black vote much better than any other Dem in the race.

[Nomad]

OMG we finally agree on something!

These things have never been "far left" it's the label given by the racist white man that made it far left.

Most of the countries that have these policies are majority white.

There it is, folks.

The old broken record.

The inability to resist dragging race into every subject is one more thing common sense centrists are getting sick and tired of out of Progs.

[StoneByStone]

There it is, folks.

The old broken record.

The inability to resist dragging race into every subject is one more thing common sense centrists are getting sick and tired of out of Progs.

Blame the (((Globalists))) for hijacking the Left.
In my black-pilled opinion, things are not going to get better until Leftists address the JQ.

[StoneByStone]

I'm sure there were a lot of people who couldn't bring themselves to vote for Hillary OR Trump who sat out the 2016 election; but whom would be motivated to vote for a centrist Dem candidate who wasn't carrying a crushing load of baggage like Hillary was. Especially if it means preventing 4 more years of Trump.

Hillary definitely had more baggage than Biden, but Biden has a fair amount of his own. And Biden really isn't popular among the Left. So the same way lots of Leftists and left-leaning Centrists weren't motivated to vote for Hillary, I think the same thing is likely to happen with Biden. Both are status-quo establishment-approved Centrists who don't want change.

A Dem candidate could muster more new votes motivated simply to vote AGAINST the Republican candidate. The Republican candidate can't really attract many more votes than were already cast. There's no new pool of potential Trump voters out there, but there is a huge pool of potential NeverTrump voters.

Andrew Yang said something that I think is 100% true. "When we talk about Trump, we're losing." Some people will vote against Trump, but most voters don't vote against candidates. Rather, they vote for candidates. So while Trump probably isn't gaining anymore supporters, what matters is if the Democrat nominee can get enough people to vote for them. I can't see Biden achieving that.