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    Hey tranny. I think you just made the biggest mistake of your miserable pathetic life.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Yes, you did. "The legislature cannot put amendments on the ballot...
    They can't.
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    They do not have authority to change the constitution of Texas.
    The don't.
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    Only the people have that power.
    They do.
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    All the legislature can do is propose amendments to the people."
    That's right.
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    My original point stands.
    No it doesn't.
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    Texas has no state-wide votes on issues other than constitutional amendments.
    WRONG. A referendum is not an amendment. It does not even have to be a proposed amendment.
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    The referendum was possible to vote on an income tax but that never occurred and is now a moot issue.
    No, it isn't.
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    If I repeat the same facts it is because you keep repeating the opposite incorrect information.
    No, you are just making a repetitious distortions and contextomy fallacies (RDCF).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Gonna create even more jobs and opportunity in that state.
    Very well could, now that there is more certainty on this. The only way an income tax can occur in Texas now is by constitutional amendment.

    Of course, they DO amend their constitution quite a lot...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    They can't.

    WRONG. A referendum is not an amendment. It does not even have to be a proposed amendment.

    No, it isn't.

    No, you are just making a repetitious distortions and contextomy fallacies (RDCF).
    The people have no power to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot. Only the legislature can do that when they propose an amendment by a 2/3 vote.

    You are correct in that a referendum is not an amendment--that is what I've been saying. Texas can only vote on constitutional amendments, they do not have referendum on other issues at the state level.

    You keep citing the same incorrect information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    The people have no power to put a constitutional amendment on the ballot.
    As always, the people have all the rights they need to completely replace the constitution of the State of Texas, if they so desire.
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    Only the legislature can do that when they propose an amendment by a 2/3 vote.
    No. It is the same as the State and the U.S. Constitution. They created it. They own it. They can completely dissolve it and replace it with another if they so desire.
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    You are correct in that a referendum is not an amendment--that is what I've been saying.
    No, you've been saying quite the opposite. I will call this argument 1).
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    Texas can only vote on constitutional amendments, they do not have referendum on other issues at the state level.
    I will call this argument 2). You are now locked in paradox. Which is it, dude? Arguing both sides of a paradox is irrational.
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    You keep citing the same incorrect information.
    YOU are the one being irrational here. You MUST clear your paradox or continue to be irrational.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    As always, the people have all the rights they need to completely replace the constitution of the State of Texas, if they so desire.
    Not true. The people have no method of putting amendments on the ballot in Texas.

    Please provide the method by which they would do so and the source of this information.

    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, you've been saying quite the opposite. I will call this argument 1).
    You obviously failed to understand my post. I said the only state-wide vote Texas has are for constitutional amendments; unless we refer to the process of voting as referendum (in the generic sense). But those votes are only for amendments and no other issues.

    Unlike many other (usually western) states Texas does not put proposed legislation or other issues on the ballot--only proposed amendments.

    That means there is no paradox between argument #1 and #2. They are the same. You just failed to grasp the concept.

    There are no examples of Texas voting on any state-wide issues other than constitutional amendments under the 1876 Constitution.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Not true. The people have no method of putting amendments on the ballot in Texas.
    Please provide the method by which they would do so and the source of this information.
    RQAA
    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    You obviously failed to understand my post. I said the only state-wide vote Texas has are for constitutional amendments; unless we refer to the process of voting as referendum (in the generic sense). But those votes are only for amendments and no other issues.
    Unlike many other (usually western) states Texas does not put proposed legislation or other issues on the ballot--only proposed amendments.
    That means there is no paradox between argument #1 and #2. They are the same. You just failed to grasp the concept.
    No, you are still locked in paradox. You are being irrational. Which is it, dude?
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    There are no examples of Texas voting on any state-wide issues other than constitutional amendments under the 1876 Constitution.
    RDCF. I already gave you one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    RDCF. I already gave you one.
    That was my main point, so if you concede I am right on that then I am right on the entire issue. Texas does not vote on any issues other than constitutional amendments and only the legislature can put those amendments on the ballot. The people cannot put anything on the ballot.

    If the citizens can put amendments on the ballot without the legislature, you would be able to show us how that is done, but the best you can do is claim "RQAA." Show us!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night
    RDCF. I already gave you one.
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    That was my main point,
    No, that is MY main point.
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    so if you concede I am right
    Never did. RDCF.
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    on that then I am right on the entire issue.
    No. RDCF.
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    Texas does not vote on any issues other than constitutional amendments and only the legislature can put those amendments on the ballot. The people cannot put anything on the ballot.
    RDCF.
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    If the citizens can put amendments on the ballot without the legislature, you would be able to show us how that is done, but the best you can do is claim "RQAA." Show us!!
    Already did. RQAA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, that is MY main point.

    Never did. RDCF.

    No. RDCF.

    RDCF.

    Already did. RQAA.
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