Texas voters approve CONSTITUTIONAL BAN on state income tax

[rjhenn]

I said these were all constitutional amendments on the November ballot (Texas does not have referenda). I then proved it which makes it relevant.

The fallacy is that you stated wrong information.

And each of those amendments on the ballot was a referendum.

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[CFM]

The usual right-wing paranoia. Don't they have any real arguments?

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Hopefully, one of those illegals you believe should get to stay will Kate Steinle your family.

[Into the Night]

I said these were all constitutional amendments on the November ballot (Texas does not have referenda). I then proved it which makes it relevant.

The fallacy is that you stated wrong information.

Texas has referenderums. They do not have to be amendments to the constitution. You proved nothing but that you don't know Texas law or its constitution.

[Flash]

And each of those amendments on the ballot was a referendum.

In a very generic sense. Many states have (initiative and) referenda that allows them to vote on laws, issues, etc. and even initiate them to be put on the ballot.

In Texas the only state-wide vote on issues involves constitutional amendments. So is is not referenda as used in comparative state politics context.

Texans cannot initiate issues/laws through a petition (initiative) and vote on those issues. The legislature votes on put amendments on the ballot and voters vote to approve or deny them (Texas constitution now has over 500 amendments).

So, it is a referendum in that the state voters determined whether to approve the amendments.

[LV426]

All good...Texas can just go ask for handouts from the feds to balance their budgets, like what they already do by raising the welfare block grant.

[Flash]

Texas has referenderums. They do not have to be amendments to the constitution. You proved nothing but that you don't know Texas law or its constitution.

What is one example of a Texas state-wide vote that is not a constitutional amendment?

Some city governments do have initiative and referendum.

[Into the Night]

In a very generic sense. Many states have (initiative and) referenda that allows them to vote on laws, issues, etc. and even initiate them to be put on the ballot.

Irrelevance fallacy.

In Texas the only state-wide vote on issues involves constitutional amendments. So is is not referenda as used in comparative state politics context.

WRONG. State wide votes can occur on any issue. It need not be a proposed amendment to the constitution of Texas.

Texans cannot initiate issues/laws through a petition (initiative) and vote on those issues.

Irrelevance fallacy. Redefinition fallacy (initiative<->referendem).

The legislature votes on put amendments on the ballot and voters vote to approve or deny them (Texas constitution now has over 500 amendments).

648 last I counted. The legislature cannot put amendments on the ballot. They do not have authority to change the constitution of Texas. Only the people have that power. All the legislature can do is propose amendments to the people.

So, it is a referendum in that the state voters determined whether to approve the amendments.

True, but not all referendums are proposed amendments to the constitution.

Compositional error fallacy.

[Into the Night]

All good...Texas can just go ask for handouts from the feds to balance their budgets, like what they already do by raising the welfare block grant.

It is not a 'handout'. The federal government taxes Texas for that money.

[Into the Night]

What is one example of a Texas state-wide vote that is not a constitutional amendment?

Some city governments do have initiative and referendum.

Up until recently, imposing a State income tax.

[Flash]

WRONG. State wide votes can occur on any issue. It need not be a proposed amendment to the constitution of Texas.

Factual error fallacy. Give one example of an issue that the citizens of Texas voted for that was not a constitutional amendment (that was binding and not simply voter opinion).

The legislature cannot put amendments on the ballot. They do not have authority to change the constitution of Texas. Only the people have that power. All the legislature can do is propose amendments to the people.

Same thing fallacy. Proposing the amendment is how it is put on the ballot--so the legislature does put the issue on the ballot when it proposes them.

True, but not all referendums are proposed amendments to the constitution.

Factual error fallacy. Provide one example of a state-wide referendum that was not a proposed amendment (not including the vote to secede from the union).

[Flash]

Up until recently, imposing a State income tax.

Texas never voted on imposing a state income tax so there has never been a referendum vote on anything other than amendments.

[Into the Night]

Factual error fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy.

Give one example of an issue that the citizens of Texas voted for that was not a constitutional amendment (that was binding and not simply voter opinion).

RQAA

Same thing fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy.

Proposing the amendment is how it is put on the ballot--so the legislature does put the issue on the ballot when it proposes them.

Never said otherwise.

Factual error fallacy.

Buzzword fallacy.

Provide one example of a state-wide referendum that was not a proposed amendment (not including the vote to secede from the union).

RQAA.

[Gonzomin]

Of course, Florida and Texas should not have a state tax. They are both regularly hit by hurricanes. You might think they would have a state tax so they could repair damage after disasters. Just let the federal taxpayers pay for them.

[Flash]

Never said otherwise.

Yes, you did. "The legislature cannot put amendments on the ballot... They do not have authority to change the constitution of Texas. Only the people have that power. All the legislature can do is propose amendments to the people."

My original point stands. Texas has no state-wide votes on issues other than constitutional amendments. The referendum was possible to vote on an income tax but that never occurred and is now a moot issue.

If I repeat the same facts it is because you keep repeating the opposite incorrect information.

[Truth Detector]

Texas voters approve CONSTITUTIONAL BAN on state income tax

Gonna create even more jobs and opportunity in that state.