ABC buried Clinton-Epstein scandal during election (Trump would've won by even more)

[Micawber]

even more than negative 3 million

[Nordberg]

You are mixing things up. Clinton was on Epstein's plane more than two dozen times. Most of those trips did not have Epstein on the plane. Epstein had loaned the plane for use by a charity to fly charity workers to conferences, and Clinton was one of those charity workers. The plane itself was not evil. It was what Epstein did with the plane that was evil. Clinton flying to an aid conference in Africa was not evil.

Now trump flying a 15 year old "towel girl" from Marlo-Largo to NYC, and then having her driven to Epstein's mansion was evil.

The stewardess on the Epstein plane denies that Clinton went to the island.

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That is pretty funny, a Fox report about a right wing partisan's opinion on the Tucker Carlson's show which is broadcasted on Fox is now news, beautiful. How come you people don't know that framing is and what is its' purpose?

And if I were you, I'd go careful there, there exists plenty of documentation of the Trump and Epstein relationship and Epstein did die in a jail under the supervision of billy barr

Slick silly lied about his trips on the Lolita! Epstein had painting of billy wearing blue dress and red heels! Barr doesn’t work at the prison idiot!

[Phantasmal]

Slick silly lied about his trips on the Lolita! Epstein had painting of billy wearing blue dress and red heels! Barr doesn’t work at the prison idiot!

Too bad he was killed, we could have gotten the dirt on a lot of very powerful men. Their victims will not see justice, maybe they can get money from his estate, and at least his trafficking has been shut down.

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Of course. However, Trump has been accused of sexual assault by about 200 women. So yeah, I'm going to assume he ran train on some sex slaves with Epstein and Clinton.

Accusations ? What happened? Why no law suit? Slick Willy lied about his number of trips on Lolita express! Said it was 4, turned out over 20! FBI found painting of Willy in Epstein’s apartment wearing blue dress and red heels! WTF!

[artichoke]

Trump was a big-time friend of Epstein who hung around together for years.

This is the guilt-by-association fallacy. What is NOT guilt-by-association is someone who has already been credibly accused by 11 different aids from their own party of rape, sexual harassment, and sexual misconduct just happening to choose planes of the pedophile pimp to the rich and famous for dozens of his trips.

Bringing up Bill, not Hillary's involvement,would have focused us on Trump's part in that sordid play.

Or it would have just focused on yet another chapter in more Bill Clinton's DECADES of violating women while Hillary protected him, enabled his abuses, and destroyed his victims.

[StoneByStone]

Accusations ? What happened? Why no law suit? Slick Willy lied about his number of trips on Lolita express! Said it was 4, turned out over 20! FBI found painting of Willy in Epstein’s apartment wearing blue dress and red heels! WTF!

Trump settled the lawsuits out of court in order to cover them up, like Cosby did.

[artichoke]

Trump settled the lawsuits out of court in order to cover them up, like Cosby did.

Or it was cheaper to pay off gold-digging scam-artists with a nominal extortion fee to permanently make their scam go away. This is standard practice.

[StoneByStone]

Or it was cheaper to pay off gold-digging scam-artists with a nominal extortion fee to permanently make their scam go away. This is standard practice.

Do you think Cosby is innocent too? Harvey Weinstein?

Trump has had around 200 women accuse him of sexual assault. If it was one or two, sure, I'd say who knows? But 200?!

[artichoke]

Do you think Cosby is innocent too? Harvey Weinstein?

Apples and oranges. Cosby, Weinstein, and Clinton had tons of additional evidence showing they were sexual predators. Obviously.

Trump has had around 200 women accuse him of sexual assault. If it was one or two, sure, I'd say who knows? But 200?!

I'm sure. Democrats have cried wolf too many times for people to take your repeatedly debunked conspiracy theories and propaganda seriously at this point, let alone at face value.

[StoneByStone]

Apples and oranges. Cosby, Weinstein, and Clinton had tons of additional evidence showing they were sexual predators. Obviously.

Such as?

I'm sure. Democrats have cried wolf too many times for people to take your repeatedly debunked conspiracy theories and propaganda seriously at this point, let alone at face value.

I'm not a Democrat.

[artichoke]

[QUOTE=StoneByStone;3455602]Such as?

Witnesses, all the claims being from Democrats with the same details in their career-ending, life-ruining stories, and who no reason to lie, Clinton provably being at the location of the crimes at the times, settling lawsuits regarding those abuses, DNA evidence from when he ordered one of those interns to perform sex acts on him, etc.

I'm not a Democrat.

I know, the Frank Apisa "I'm only 99% Democrat" game.

[Walt]

There are so many witnesses against trump that we forget that trump is one of those witnesses against trump. Even trump says trump sexually assaults women. And we have a minor sexual assault on film. And there is plenty of confirming evidence.

Then there are the prostitutes. There are actual signed contracts that trump had written up where he paid women for sex. He actually had a child by one affair he had. And all the contracts we have seen try to force the women into abortions, if applicable.

Then we move on to the trafficked women. The trump "modeling" agency hired hundreds of women who were illegal aliens. Their "agents" moved women into the USA illegally. Many of these women were forced to date (and sleep with) trump and his associates. Why did a supposed real estate developer have a "modeling" agency in the first place? Even trump says it was to "acquire" beautiful women.

And then there are the underage girls. Over half the "models" were underage when the trump "modeling" agency brought them to the USA. trump has "dated" girls as young as 14. He claims it is for "publicity", but what sort of 70 year old married man goes on a date with a 14 year old girl? That is just creepy.

And we bring it all back to Epstein. Two of the girls abused by Epstein were flown over state lines to Epstein on trump's jet. trump and Epstein flew on each others jets to go to "dates". They double dated on many occasions. trump actually went to Epstein's Island.

All of this is far worse than flying Epstein's plane to a health conference in Africa with a bunch of aid workers... Which is why you will not find Epstein on those flights.

[artichoke]

There are so many witnesses against trump that we forget that trump is one of those witnesses against trump. Even trump says trump sexually assaults women. And we have a minor sexual assault on film. And there is plenty of confirming evidence.

What passes for "evidence" among Democrats is never anything close to actual facts or substance in the thinking adult world (see the impeachment trial). Trump talking locker room shit to another guy about grabbing women in no way implies a lack of consent. That is not evidence. You are just willing to believe blatantly stupid and false things out of your partisan hack bias.

Then there are the prostitutes. There are actual signed contracts that trump had written up where he paid women for sex. He actually had a child by one affair he had. And all the contracts we have seen try to force the women into abortions, if applicable.

From the same cry wolf propagandists who also swore they weren't lying about:

-the Russia collusion hoax,
-the "Investigating Biden's corruption is worse than Biden BEING corrupt" hoax,
-the Covington Catholic hoax,
-the Roy Moore pedophile hoax,
-the Kavanaugh rape gang hoax,
-the "repealing Net Neutrality will destroy the Internet" hoax,
-the Jussie Smollett hoax,
-the Charlottesville "very fine people" hoax,
-the Duke Lacrosse team hoax,
-the fake Ukraine transcript hoax,
-the Trayvon Martin hoax,
-the "Trump admitted to sexual assault" hoax,
-the "penises cause climate change" hoax,
-the "uninsured crisis" hoax,
-the "Trump denying passports to Latinos" hoax,
-the multitude of college hate crime hoaxes,
-the "Mission Accomplished" hoax,
-the "deceptively edited video" Planned Parenthood hoax,
-the "children in cages" hoax,
-the Michael Cohen perjury/contacting the Russians hoaxes,
-the SPLC "hate group" hoax,
-the "Trump mocking people with disabilities" hoax,
-the "you can keep your doctor" hoax,
-the "immigrants are rapists, criminals, animals" hoax,
-the Kavanaugh "white power symbol" hoax,
-the "Trump asked Putin to hack the DNC" hoax,
-the polar bear dying from climate change hoax,
-the "Trump made it easier for the mentally ill to purchase guns" hoax,
-the Scaramucci Russian bankers hoax,
-the "Muslim ban" hoax,
-the global warming "consensus" hoax,
-the "Obama's scandal-free presidency" hoax,
-the Trump Jr. WikiLeaks hoax,
-the Iran nuclear appeasement hoax,
-the "polls show Trump will lose" hoax,
-the "Obamacare will never fund abortions or illegal immigrants" hoax,
-the "Hillary exonerated" hoax,
-the "white privilege" hoax,
-the voter suppression hoax,
-and the "hands up don't shoot" hoax.

And even taken at face value, none of this validates anything about sexual assault.

Then we move on to the trafficked women. The trump "modeling" agency hired hundreds of women who were illegal aliens. Their "agents" moved women into the USA illegally.

Again, even if this latest smear from the pathological liars of the left is taken at face value, it has zero to do with sexual assault.

Many of these women were forced to date (and sleep with) trump and his associates.

At gunpoint? As a condition of employment? Again, about as believable as the left's made-up "peeing on beds" lie, but this too in no way establishes sexual assault.

Why did a supposed real estate developer have a "modeling" agency in the first place?

Billionaires can't have multiple businesses? And conspiracy theories prove assault HOW?



Starting to see why Democrats always get laughed at when they claim to have "facts" (as opposed to emotional hysteria and misinformation)?

[StoneByStone]

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Witnesses, all the claims being from Democrats with the same details in their career-ending, life-ruining stories, and who no reason to lie, Clinton provably being at the location of the crimes at the times, settling lawsuits regarding those abuses, DNA evidence from when he ordered one of those interns to perform sex acts on him, etc.

Most of the Trump accusers weren't involved in politics, had very similar details in their stories, and had no reason to lie. Trump, like Clinton, was also at the location of where the crimes would have happened. Trump, like Clinton and Cosby, also settled lawsuits in order to save his image.
You don't care about sexual assault, you just use it as a way to condemn people who you disagree with politically. If you agree with the person, then you'll defend them.

I know, the Frank Apisa "I'm only 99% Democrat" game.

I know it's hard for an NPC to understand this, but not liking the RNC, doesn't mean I have to like the DNC. I have no loyalty to either party.