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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Excerpts without reading the full article. Typical trump chump ploy. What was going on in the last 20 years, stupid? Do you remember the global economic crisis facilitated by the dumping of bad loans into the mix. Who did that, genius?
    Sweden was burdened by their social welfare spending, it had NOTHING to do with the mortgage meltdown.

    Socialism leads to crisis government when the spending far exceeds the revenue coming in. Socialism also leads to reduced liberties and choice. If you hadn't dropped out of high school, you would have learned these valuable economic lessons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    And what the hell do you think happened during our 2 near Depressions, when banks limited what you could withdraw.....when small investors couldn't enjoy the protections of the larger ones? Gov't had to step in to keep private enterprise from screwing the middle and working class. A matter of history, a matter of fact.
    We haven't been anywhere near a depression since October 29, 1929.


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    Grow up and deal, jackass.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    That isn't a fact you lying partisan hack; that is pure unadulterated fantasy. You want to see whose to blame?

    Watch as Democrats attack the regulator and race hustle in the hearings in 2004 trying to get a handle on the impending crisis; yes the DEMOCRATS are the reason nothing was done folks:
    Fannie Mae/Freddie Mac Hearings 2004
    try some honest research beyond sound bites, jackass: Freddie Mack wasn't the core problem:


    How Reaganomics, deregulation and bailouts led to the rise of Trump

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...-rise-of-trump


    The Mortgage Fraud Scandal Is The Biggest In Human History

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mort...candal-2010-10

    The OP stands valid, no matter where you right wing rodents scurry.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    try some honest research beyond sound bites, jackass: Freddie Mack wasn't the core problem:


    How Reaganomics, deregulation and bailouts led to the rise of Trump

    https://www.pbs.org/newshour/economy...-rise-of-trump


    The Mortgage Fraud Scandal Is The Biggest In Human History

    https://www.businessinsider.com/mort...candal-2010-10

    The OP stands valid, no matter where you right wing rodents scurry.
    I see you are stuck on stupid. That isn't honest research. It's an attempt to find like minded idiots blaming capitalism on everything.

    In truth, the mortgage crisis was caused and created by leftist Progressive Socialism race hustling. If you had spent a minute of your pathetic life listening to that video, you would have learned more than the high school you dropped out of.

    By magnitude, four primary causes of the crisis can be identified:

    The US government push into housing and mortgages
    Large and growing current account deficits
    The Fed lowering of interest rates
    Securitizing of loans


    https://www.econcrises.org/2016/08/1...risis-of-2008/

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Fannie Mae was chartered by the U.S. Congress as a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) in 1968, and Freddie Mac followed two years later.
    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were given a government-sponsored monopoly in a large part of the U.S. secondary mortgage market.
    This monopoly, combined with the government's implicit guarantee to keep these firms afloat, would later contribute to the mortgage market's collapse.
    In 2007, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac began to experience large losses on their retained portfolios, especially on their Alt-A and subprime investments.
    By September 6, 2008, it was clear that the market believed the firms were in financial trouble, and the FHFA put the companies into conservatorship.


    https://www.investopedia.com/article...dit-crisis.asp
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Excerpts without reading the full article. Typical trump chump ploy. What was going on in the last 20 years, stupid? Do you remember the global economic crisis facilitated by the dumping of bad loans into the mix. Who did that, genius?
    Sweden was burdened by their social welfare spending, it had NOTHING to do with the mortgage meltdown.

    Socialism leads to crisis government when the spending far exceeds the revenue coming in. Socialism also leads to reduced liberties and choice. If you hadn't dropped out of high school, you would have learned these valuable economic lessons.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    And what the hell do you think happened during our 2 near Depressions, when banks limited what you could withdraw.....when small investors couldn't enjoy the protections of the larger ones? Gov't had to step in to keep private enterprise from screwing the middle and working class. A matter of history, a matter of fact.
    We haven't been anywhere near a depression since October 29, 1929.



    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Grow up and deal, jackass.
    I R O N Y!!!
    Pay attention and take time to read this through:

    The International Impact of the Subprime Mortgage Meltdown

    https://www.ccsb.com/pdf/Publication...nal_Impact.pdf

    Now I am wrong to directly tie Sweden's problems directly with the subprime mortgage, and you were right on this point. However, you should really read this to understand just how wrong you are regarding democratic socialist gov't and how they function: https://slate.com/news-and-politics/...mitate-it.html

    And I'm sorry to wake you up to these facts. We latest damn near depression happened during the Shrub's reign...and then the stone walling GOP wanted to blame Obama for not performing miracles:

    https://www.history.com/topics/21st-century/recession

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    I see you are stuck on stupid. That isn't honest research. It's an attempt to find like minded idiots blaming capitalism on everything.

    In truth, the mortgage crisis was caused and created by leftist Progressive Socialism race hustling. If you had spent a minute of your pathetic life listening to that video, you would have learned more than the high school you dropped out of.

    By magnitude, four primary causes of the crisis can be identified:

    The US government push into housing and mortgages
    Large and growing current account deficits
    The Fed lowering of interest rates
    Securitizing of loans


    https://www.econcrises.org/2016/08/1...risis-of-2008/

    KEY TAKEAWAYS

    Fannie Mae was chartered by the U.S. Congress as a government-sponsored enterprise (GSE) in 1968, and Freddie Mac followed two years later.
    Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac were given a government-sponsored monopoly in a large part of the U.S. secondary mortgage market.
    This monopoly, combined with the government's implicit guarantee to keep these firms afloat, would later contribute to the mortgage market's collapse.
    In 2007, Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac began to experience large losses on their retained portfolios, especially on their Alt-A and subprime investments.
    By September 6, 2008, it was clear that the market believed the firms were in financial trouble, and the FHFA put the companies into conservatorship.


    https://www.investopedia.com/article...dit-crisis.asp
    Once again, you do the right wing shuffle by ignoring all else. No one is denying the flaws in Freddie Mac....it's just that you right wing wonks can't get away with the hubris and exaggerations via your myopic views. Fact is, the subprime mortgage scandal was due to bankers using a law to LIE about their actions. https://www.thebalance.com/what-caus...crisis-3305696
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Once again, you do the right wing shuffle by ignoring all else.
    There wasn't anything right wing in those sources you clueless left wing dullard. Economics isn't about right or left wing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    No one is denying the flaws in Freddie Mac....it's just that you right wing wonks can't get away with the hubris and exaggerations via your myopic views. Fact is, the subprime mortgage scandal was due to bankers using a law to LIE about their actions.
    Wrong again; but then, you have the intelligence of an earthworm so there is that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nomad View Post
    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    Once again, you do the right wing shuffle by ignoring all else.
    There wasn't anything right wing in those sources you clueless left wing dullard. Economics isn't about right or left wing.

    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    No one is denying the flaws in Freddie Mac....it's just that you right wing wonks can't get away with the hubris and exaggerations via your myopic views. Fact is, the subprime mortgage scandal was due to bankers using a law to LIE about their actions.
    Wrong again; but then, you have the intelligence of an earthworm so there is that.
    And once again we see TD's denial of valid, documented historical facts.

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...32#post3376032

    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...22#post3376022

    His revisionism is chronic, and therefore no longer worth entertaining.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    translation: another right wing wonk who ignores any facts that don't fit into their ideology...replacing reality with their pathetic revisionism. That America BARELY avoided a second depression in the last 30 years via reaganomics/trickle down economics (thanks Clinton, thanks Obama) doesn't register with Zilcher....not surprising.
    You sir/madam/whatever are a flaming asshole of the first order.

    You wish to control the rest of us. I don't give a flying fuck what you believe as long as you don't make me pay for it. You, on the other hand demand I swallow your poison and like Winston Smith tell the world I love Big Brother as he shoots me in the head.

    What a complete and utter fool you are.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ZILCHMONGER View Post
    You sir/madam/whatever are a flaming asshole of the first order.

    You wish to control the rest of us. I don't give a flying fuck what you believe as long as you don't make me pay for it. You, on the other hand demand I swallow your poison and like Winston Smith tell the world I love Big Brother as he shoots me in the head.

    What a complete and utter fool you are.
    That is what you do now. Your Winston is trump. he tells lies over and over and you believe, you really believe.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    What I find interesting is how those afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome can call others bias while ignoring quotes from one of the people involved who said there was no quid pro quo aka pressure. They ignore trumps duty to investigate corruption between US officials and Ukraine. They ignore every US official asked if they had direct evidence of a QPQ or bribery said no. They ignore trumps well known desire to eliminate corruption at home and abroad. They ignore the Ukraine court that said Ukraine aided Hillary against trump in the 2016 election. Yet they give only the best intent for their liberal comrades. And sadely they are incapable of understanding that Biden admitted to the quid pro quo making an investigation really not important. He did it on camera.
    Trump thrives on corruption. Always has. It's his cultists who are afflicted with TDS. Totally deranged and unable to admit to any truth about their Messiah.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Those damn FACTS!
    Something that the right, and many on the left, simply cannot deal with.

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    Right wing = lie, lie, and lie some more.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    This is saving the nation. Trump has spent a lifetime ignoring laws and norms and defying anyone to do anything about it. He has bullied and pushed people out of the way. The American judicial and political systems are merely doing their jobs. Don't talk deep state. That makes you look silly and reasonable people will dismiss you when you say it. Why they would drop it, I don't know, but Trump would see it as exoneration and do even worse in the future. It is his nature.
    Just doing their jobs lol. Has biden been investigated? Is there proof that deep state actors from Obama's admin conspired to spy of a presidential candidate? Did these same actors frame the president once elected? They have been after trump since before his election and have not relented. They are NOT doing their job they are using this power to both damage trump politically and to sway the 2020 election in their favor.

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    Hello and welcome Daddyo,

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    What I find interesting is how those afflicted with Trump derangement syndrome can call others bias while ignoring quotes from one of the people involved who said there was no quid pro quo aka pressure.
    Cherry-picking only that one statement is not getting the bigger picture.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    They ignore trumps duty to investigate corruption between US officials and Ukraine. They ignore every US official asked if they had direct evidence of a QPQ or bribery said no.
    More cherry-picking in order to support a wrong predetermined conclusion that President Trump is always right.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    They ignore trumps well known desire to eliminate corruption at home and abroad.
    That is a false facade. Trump IS corrupt, and always has been. It is how he got rich. His father was corrupt. All the millions Trump inherited came from corruption. Trump was raised to be corrupt. His father ripped off the US government for millions and discriminated against blacks as he exploited government programs to provide housing after WWII. Donald Trump took over his father's business, handed to him on a silver platter, and shifted it from ripping off poor people to ripping off rich people under the guise of providing quality luxury accommodations (with safety violations) as he ripped off contractors and evaded paying full taxes, thus ripping off America. Trump is a con man.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    They ignore the Ukraine court that said Ukraine aided Hillary against trump in the 2016 election.
    That claim has not been verified by US intelligence agencies.

    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Yet they give only the best intent for their liberal comrades. And sadely they are incapable of understanding that Biden admitted to the quid pro quo making an investigation really not important. He did it on camera.
    What Vice President Biden did was wanted by many nations and was the official policy of the United States. Biden was praised for doing it by the leaders of many nations. Trump has not been praised by ANY other nations for what he did in Ukraine. President Trump compromised US and NATO security interests by attempting to bribe Zelenski to help Trump rig the 2020 election. Nunes should have recused himself from the Intelligence Committee Hearings because he was involved in the plot to dig up dirt on Biden.

    If President Trump was concerned about corruption he would have said so on the phone call, but he never even mentioned the word once. He did, however, mention Biden several times. It is clear Trump was not after corruption. He was after his political rival Biden. He sought the help of a foreign nation for a personal political errand. That's why he had to go outside the US State Department to do it. And he tried to voer it up, too, but he got found out. Only after he got found out did he finally release the aid.
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    Hello jimmymccready,

    Quote Originally Posted by jimmymccready View Post
    Trump must be impeached, the GOP Senate must expose their anti-American cause, and the campaign season must focus on Trump's lies all day every day.
    I think the Democrats should fight to hear from every key witness no matter how long that takes. Let the court battle be constantly in the news during the entire 2020 election campaign. Oh darn. Oh well, if that's what Republicans want, then that is what should happen. Nothing could be better campaigning for Senate Democrats than to be in the news standing up for what is right and a USA that stands behind the Constitution and Congressional oversight of the Executive.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Taichiliberal View Post
    All you've done is just regurgitate BS talking points found on Fox Noise....All have been examined and found NOT to be the conclusion Trump and his chumps want Americans to believe. The folks in the recent hearings were the people (career, appointed) who tell ALL the facts via eyewitness. That you choose to ignore them is irrelevant.
    Sorry wrong again. I watched the hearing. I understand the difference between direct evidence and heresy. I also read the transcript. I also took into consideration trumps anti corruption stance, well known before this phone call. I also considered the duty and frankly desire of trump to find out who was in bed with Ukraine when they helped hillary in her bid to become president. Which they have admitted.

    See unlike you borg drone liberals I use facts to formulate my position. You guys use opinion especially in this case. Well the opinions of possibly bias officials are garbage just as the OPINIONS of hard core partisans are. Then you hypocritically accuse others of what you infact are guilty of. Nothing but a CNN parrot.

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