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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    I know what socialism DOES. We have something called HISTORY for you to examine pal. You liberals always think that YOUR brand of socialism will work. Well I have news for you socialism doesn't work not because it hasn't been done correctly but because there is no incentive. Personally when my hard work no longer benefits me I won't do it. I'm not working for you and yours or the state. Your thoughts of the kumbaya fantasy of everyone fed and housed and taken care of has a price. Those costs are freedom and this country as we know it.
    Automation is going to eliminate most jobs and most opportunities. A universal basic income is inevitable. Even without that, neither pure capitalism nor pure socialism works. What does seem to work is taking bits of socialism to patch up the great gaping holes in capitalism and taking bits of capitalism to patch up the great gaping holes in socialism. But I don't expect you to be able to understand or accept any of that. You have demonstrated that you are just another brainwashed sheep, deep in the swamp of right-wing lies.

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    [QUOTE=Daddyo;3392983][QUOTE=rjhenn;3392880]Of course, his trade wars are driving companies out of the country, such as Harley-Davidson*.

    At what environmental cost?

    I know that you won't believe this, but that's just a continuation of trends from before the election. The unemployment rate has been declining since 2010. Trump has just managed to not screw it up yet.

    Trump's trade wars are damaging large sectors of the economy.

    To Trump, that just means putting Trump first.
    Tax cuts

    More companies are coming back than leaving. With a level playing field our companies are finally able to compete fairly. There will be bumps in the road as this issue is worked out. It difficult which is why your lord sith Obama and other presidents did nothing but kick the can down the road.

    The environment is fine.

    You are right I dont believe IT. Normal recessions come and go relatively quickly. Obama's horrible policy made for hyper weak recovery. Also lest not forget that lord sith Obama changed the way they counted the unemployed. They began to NOT count folks who stopped looking for work who gave up. Trump comes in cuts taxes and regulation, opens up energy sector and bam.

    If not for states with ultra high state income taxes like NY, trumps tax cuts would have benefitted even more folks. But it ain't fair for NY residents to be allowed to deduct state taxes from their income. My family benefitted very well with the cuts. My tax burden dropped into the high 20's percentage.

    Again the trade wars will cause some pain till won but imagine this if your traitorous demoncrats would get on board and we showed a unified front. China is freaking holding out to see if the socialist demtard wins so they can get a better deal. So all this fighting and the possibility however small of trump.losing is hurting our efforts. And he is still winning despite the traitors actions.

    The second amendments best friend is trump. Every single dem has vowed to damage it. Those are facts easily proved by their own words in very recent days.

    Trumps justices should solidify the right for decades. If he gets a couple more from there side even better.
    Funny, the Dow almost doubled under Obama's "horrible policy". The economy was doing better in 2014-15 than in 2017-18. Monthly job growth was better under Obama than in Trump's first two years. Growth in the Employment-to-Population Rate Has Slowed under Trump. And the national debt is exploding under Trump. Gun control is perhaps the only thing that I disagree with the Democrats about. They are completely insane about it. But Trump lies constantly and you believe every lie. Neither he nor any of the Democrats deserves my vote. I'll either have to go 3rd party or find someone to write in.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    I know nothing about economics says the socialist lol. Says the guy who supports the demoncrats lol. I'll give you a little lesson. When your business has artificial costs and fees like taxes and tariffs and crushing regulation that your competition doesn't have it's hard to be competitive.
    You mean like Trump's tariffs?

    When you bring in illegals they lower the wages of citizens here already.
    You mean by being willing to do the jobs that citizens here already won't do?
    ]When you give people free this and that it is stolen from those who earned it.
    You mean "earned it" by taking advantage of (stealing from) others?
    Those are just a snippet of what your demoncrats are going to do to our economy.
    That's quite a set of paranoid delusions you've got there.
    Trump lowered taxes reduced regulation increased energy production all friends of economic growth. Your side talks nothing but vacuums in the pocket of business and then economic growth itself will be sucked dry.
    Those lowered taxes were just pocketed by the already rich. There was no significant increase in business investment. Trump brags a lot, but all he's really delivered is a massive increase in the debt. And a lot of money for him and his billionaire buddies.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Reality: Trump did it.

    Trump supporters: 'The world is out to get him.'

    'The world hates him because he 'made it' and he is so rich. He didn't ask for the black cloud that follows him around everywhere he goes, but he's special because he stands up to it and won't take any nonsense (like facts.)'
    Trump didnt do it.

    TDS sufferers..you know he meant that he wanted dirt on Biden when he said do US a favor and look into the fraud from 2016.
    Even thought the other guy didnt know the aid was being held up it's still a QPQ.
    Even though aid was held up to other countries as well this time it was a QPQ.

    Trump haters...we cant beat him so let's impeach him. Nothing we do works on this guy. Hes gonna fill the court with constitutional justices, ruin our final push to socialism, build the wall to stop more needed demoncrat votes from pouring in illegally, level the playing field for our exports by evening the tariffs eliminating millions in bribe money we counted on but that sucks life from our businesses, strengthen our military making us bigger bullies.

    He is illegitimate because Hillary got more votes. We need to change the system so we can win. Impeach so we can win. Spy on a political opponent so we can win. Get illegals to vote so we can win, we need to charge our opponent with racism, sexism , homophobia, and all the other isms to win. obviously our ideas are so horrible that the above is needed to win.

    Just win baby. But if we lose dont worry we have a secret weapon to get rid of him.

    You guys are pathetic lol.

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    Myth: The belief that the world is out to get Trump (because he is so rich and successful) is absurd because lots of other people are rich and successful and the world is not out to get THEM.

    Reality: Trump is unpopular because he has offended many.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Automation is going to eliminate most jobs and most opportunities. A universal basic income is inevitable. Even without that, neither pure capitalism nor pure socialism works. What does seem to work is taking bits of socialism to patch up the great gaping holes in capitalism and taking bits of capitalism to patch up the great gaping holes in socialism. But I don't expect you to be able to understand or accept any of that. You have demonstrated that you are just another brainwashed sheep, deep in the swamp of right-wing lies.

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    I believe that capitalism with safety nets for those in true or temporary need is the key.

    I dont expect you to understand that it is inherently unfair to take a man's sweat equity to give to another who did nothing to earn it. Save for the safety net system for those in true need.

    All your demoncrat candidates wish to add billions to the unfunded mandates with all types of giveaways. To pay for it taxes will go up. More money will be stolen from those who earned it. At some point I will no longer work like a dog only to have 40 plus percent taken and redistributed. Like with socialism a collapse will come soon after.

    Capitalism will stand on it's own just fine. Socialism never has.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Trump didnt do it.

    TDS sufferers..you know he meant that he wanted dirt on Biden when he said do US a favor and look into the fraud from 2016.
    Even thought the other guy didnt know the aid was being held up it's still a QPQ.
    Even though aid was held up to other countries as well this time it was a QPQ.

    Trump haters...we cant beat him so let's impeach him. Nothing we do works on this guy. Hes gonna fill the court with constitutional justices, ruin our final push to socialism, build the wall to stop more needed demoncrat votes from pouring in illegally, level the playing field for our exports by evening the tariffs eliminating millions in bribe money we counted on but that sucks life from our businesses, strengthen our military making us bigger bullies.

    He is illegitimate because Hillary got more votes. We need to change the system so we can win. Impeach so we can win. Spy on a political opponent so we can win. Get illegals to vote so we can win, we need to charge our opponent with racism, sexism , homophobia, and all the other isms to win. obviously our ideas are so horrible that the above is needed to win.

    Just win baby. But if we lose dont worry we have a secret weapon to get rid of him.

    You guys are pathetic lol.
    If Trump did not do the criminal and wrong shit he did, there would be no basis for impeachment. Trump is working for the top 1 percent, but that is not disqualifying. He is allowed to push for the super wealthy as long as he does it Constitutionally. He pays no attention to laws or norms. He does what he wants. Problem is he drove right over the Constitution on his trip to the plutocracy.
    Perhaps a reporter can ask him at his next press conference. Oh wait, he does not do them. Maybe in the next daily presser his Press Secty can tell us about them. Forgot, she does not do them either.
    But he is transparent? He does not even allow his staff or transcribers to be in talks with foreign leaders. Nothing is provided to the people. He even has phone call copies declared super-secret and they get buried.
    If I did not know how open and honest he is, I might think his actions are those of a guilty person hiding something. It sure is what a crook would do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    You mean like Trump's tariffs?


    You mean by being willing to do the jobs that citizens here already won't do?

    You mean "earned it" by taking advantage of (stealing from) others?

    That's quite a set of paranoid delusions you've got there.
    Those lowered taxes were just pocketed by the already rich. There was no significant increase in business investment. Trump brags a lot, but all he's really delivered is a massive increase in the debt. And a lot of money for him and his billionaire buddies.



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    Trumps tariffs are retaliatory. You either know this and are ok misleading other borg like you OR you don't and are ignorant of the subject.

    We can legally import necessary labor for those jobs. Fully vetted and self sufficient labor. Not the welfare blood suckers your party is draining this countries life blood with. Not the dreggs. I feel for those poor good people who live in horrible conditions but this country can't help the world.

    Earning money equals taking advantage of others to you. Wow. Yet you find it ok to redistribute it to folks to lazy to try to earn it lol. Btw I dont have any slave or indentured servants working for me. All employees freely accept their pay and are free to leave if unhappy. So once again you are all eat up with ignorant.

    Saved my family a bucket load of dough and I am.middle class. Stop talking crap you know nothing about. Its insulting how ignorant on the issues you are. Nothing but a parrot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Myth: The belief that the world is out to get Trump (because he is so rich and successful) is absurd because lots of other people are rich and successful and the world is not out to get THEM.

    Reality: Trump is unpopular because he has offended many.
    The left is out to get trump. This included their comrades in the media. They want him not because hes rich but because he is destroying there leftist successes and agenda.

    Offended? The same people ok with killing babies in the womb are offended by trumps rhetoric please cry me a river

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    If Trump did not do the criminal and wrong shit he did, there would be no basis for impeachment. Trump is working for the top 1 percent, but that is not disqualifying. He is allowed to push for the super wealthy as long as he does it Constitutionally. He pays no attention to laws or norms. He does what he wants. Problem is he drove right over the Constitution on his trip to the plutocracy.
    Perhaps a reporter can ask him at his next press conference. Oh wait, he does not do them. Maybe in the next daily presser his Press Secty can tell us about them. Forgot, she does not do them either.
    But he is transparent? He does not even allow his taff or transcribers to be in talks with foreign leaders. Nothing is provided to the people. He even has phone call copies declared super-secret and they get buried.
    If I did not know how open and honest he is, I might think his actions are those of a guilty person hiding something. It sure is what a crook would do.
    Yo einstein you do realize that your libtards in congress are about to impeach him for obstruction. Not the QPQ or bribery. Wonder why since all those laws hes broken are waiting.

    You know why he ended the press conferences. Your fake news comrades were despicable.

    He talks to reporters more than any other president.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Yo einstein you do realize that your libtards in congress are about to impeach him for obstruction. Not the QPQ or bribery. Wonder why since all those laws hes broken are waiting.

    You know why he ended the press conferences. Your fake news comrades were despicable.

    He talks to reporters more than any other president.
    The liberal lunatics that post on here really are hopeless, aren't they? They've obviously been brainwashed by our biased media so severely that they're unable to post any intelligent, rational or logical thoughts. Pitiful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    Yo einstein you do realize that your libtards in congress are about to impeach him for obstruction. Not the QPQ or bribery. Wonder why since all those laws hes broken are waiting.

    You know why he ended the press conferences. Your fake news comrades were despicable.

    He talks to reporters more than any other president.
    Don't call me names. If Ukraine was corrupt in 2016 and 17 when Repubs had all the power, why did they give them aid and no mention of this corruption? If Ukraine was actually interfering in our election, why didn't the Repubs do something about it and why did they never mention it?
    If Hunter was doing terrible illegal things, why did they never say a word about it when they had all the power?
    Trump and the reds made this shit up and they are using those lies in the campaign. Trump is without honor. And you reds are being played.
    Press conferences were never friendly. Not for any president. They were forced to answer questions by the press that they were at odds with. It has always been that way. Trump is a big baby who is gutless. He can not tolerate anyone standing up to him. He refuses to have talks with anyone who is not 100 percent pro Daffy.
    He did obstruction bigly. He refused to provide a scrap of paperwork .He refuses to talk rto the investigations, He refuses subpoenas and orders all who in or out on his administration to ignore subpoenas. If that is not obstruction, what the hell is?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Myth: The belief that the world is out to get Trump (because he is so rich and successful) is absurd because lots of other people are rich and successful and the world is not out to get THEM.

    Reality: Trump is unpopular because he has offended many.
    He's only "offended" losers and America hating socialists like you. Of course, you're also "offended" by long standing monuments, the National Anthem, the Pledge of Allegiance, the American flag,....
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Steven VanderMolen View Post
    The liberal lunatics that post on here really are hopeless, aren't they? They've obviously been brainwashed by our biased media so severely that they're unable to post any intelligent, rational or logical thoughts. Pitiful.
    I understand different views and all but what gets me is the different reality. How I can see socialism the utter failure it is looking through the lens of history yet they can't. How I can read the second amendment and recognize that it's the right of the people to keep and bear arms yet they can't. Makes no sense.

    I'm beginning to believe that they are nothing more than shallow thinking, jealous, and hyper impulsive emotion driven dummies who have zero value system and live in a perpetual hippie "if it feels good do it" state.

    So yes I agree. Very sad for this country.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Daddyo View Post
    I believe that capitalism with safety nets for those in true or temporary need is the key.

    I dont expect you to understand that it is inherently unfair to take a man's sweat equity to give to another who did nothing to earn it. Save for the safety net system for those in true need.

    All your demoncrat candidates wish to add billions to the unfunded mandates with all types of giveaways. To pay for it taxes will go up. More money will be stolen from those who earned it. At some point I will no longer work like a dog only to have 40 plus percent taken and redistributed. Like with socialism a collapse will come soon after.

    Capitalism will stand on it's own just fine. Socialism never has.
    The giveaways you rightys cry about are going to the top. How the Reds got people to accept it is poor people keeping them from their right to be rich is amazing. Reagan stsrted it with his crying about black women in Cadillacs getting welfare. The long and deep search found no one who fit that claim. Rightys actually believe that crap. They ignore that Reagans purpose was to divide the poor and middle class. The Trumpican party continues that. If the voters could actually analyze the facts, they would be at torch and pitchfork times.
    Socialism like Capitalism has never existed. The so-called Socialist countries have corporations and companies providing jobs to civilians who chose their own working destinies. The difference it that they how they allocate their tax money. They provide safety nets, health insurance and cheap education. We send our money to the top 1 percent. Since 1970 the wealthy net worth has gone up 100 times the base . Rightys vote for that.

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