Reality vs. trump supporters

[rjhenn]

Horse shit! Obama's gdp was up and down his entire tenure. In 15 it was 2.88%. Then in 16 it fell to 1.57%. It was going down not up.

You can say that same about Trump. A couple of quarters with the rate of increase going up, then a few with it going down. 2 or 3% increase, then back down to 2 or even slightly less.

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[PoliTalker]

Hello rjhenn,

By "stands up to it, you mean throws an Infantile temper tantrum whenever he's criticized or doesn't get his way.

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The dreaded tweet storm:

'If you don't do my bidding, I'll trash talk you on twitter, like a spoiled brat.'

But if you fall in line I'll deliver the only game left in Republicanville, the hate vote.

[rjhenn]

Dude you parrot those leftist talking points well. I was supposed to save money with obamacare lol. Now we know that was a lie. So Medicare for all will save me lol you are just not capable buddy sorry. Its beginning to look like you just have no idea how this works. You have no experience it seems with folks who pay taxes. No understanding of the real costs. I pay for your stupidity with real hard earned dollars. I wish you paid for your mindset that would be fair.

I, like most Americans, pay for your mindset. Many did save money with Obamacare. I didn't notice any difference. But then, I got health insurance because I actually had a decent job. You appear to be one of Jesus's goats.

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[rjhenn]

Comey says it was unverified and celacious. But that isn't the real proof. Steele said it was bull shit and he prepared it. Your brain is corrupt. You aren't educated on the issues enough to play. Or you are willing to lie. It's not possible that you didnt know Comey and steele said the dossier was crap. You cant be that out of the loop, that ignorant of facts.

And, of course, you believe that because the right-wing lie machine said so.

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[rjhenn]

Impeachment is constitutional for high crimes and misdemeanors. Impeachment to effect an election is treasonous. The very thing your traitors are crying that trump is supposedly doing.....election meddling. Our founders knew crooked politicians like your demonrats might try this. They were right. Traitors.

You are totally deranged, deep in your TDS.

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[Daddyo]

Actually, in 2014 there were 2 consecutive quarters of 5% growth, something Trump has yet to see.

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Quantitative easing had nothing to do with it right? AKA the artificial injection of money into the economy. Obama used it twice. Bond buying finally ended in I think october of 14.

Trumps numbers are without artificial help and despite raises in the interest rates.

[Daddyo]

Hello rjhenn,



The dreaded tweet storm:

'If you don't do my bidding, I'll trash talk you on twitter, like a spoiled brat.'

But if you fall in line I'll deliver the only game left in Republicanville, the hate vote.

Justified in the face of 95 percent negative coverage much of which is bias and false.

[Daddyo]

I, like most Americans, pay for your mindset. Many did save money with Obamacare. I didn't notice any difference. But then, I got health insurance because I actually had a decent job. You appear to be one of Jesus's goats.

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Who saved? Costs rose across the board. The only possible savings come from subsidies on the affordable care act plans. This means that for one to save another has to pay more.

Your company paid more for your coverage because of obamacare. Many companies couldn't absorb that increase and were forced to cut or eliminate coverage.

How did my mindset cost you?

Explain the jesus goat comment as I'm not religious but I am curious at your likely attempted attack

[Nordberg]

I, like most Americans, pay for your mindset. Many did save money with Obamacare. I didn't notice any difference. But then, I got health insurance because I actually had a decent job. You appear to be one of Jesus's goats.

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My wife got leukemia and the ACA saved our asses. My single case does not relate that 30 million people without healthcare finally got it. It saved many, many lives and a lot of suffering. Obama actually got the foot in the door for national healthcare. Trump is cutting feet off. Our healthcare is terrible and it needs to be fixed.
It was a step to a kinder and gentler America. Trump would shut it all down if he could. He has no compassion and no care about anyone below him.

[rjhenn]

Justified in the face of 95 percent negative coverage much of which is bias and false.

Rather, much of which is truthful, but nothing that you can accept.

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[rjhenn]

Quantitative easing had nothing to do with it right? AKA the artificial injection of money into the economy. Obama used it twice. Bond buying finally ended in I think october of 14.

Trumps numbers are without artificial help and despite raises in the interest rates.

Trump's numbers are a product of the Obama economy.

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[rjhenn]

Who saved? Costs rose across the board. The only possible savings come from subsidies on the affordable care act plans. This means that for one to save another has to pay more.

Your company paid more for your coverage because of obamacare. Many companies couldn't absorb that increase and were forced to cut or eliminate coverage.

How did my mindset cost you?

Explain the jesus goat comment as I'm not religious but I am curious at your likely attempted attack

Millions got insurance coverage that they couldn't get before, or better coverage than they had before. That saved them a lot in medical costs.
Your mindset costs all of us. It holds us back and is based on a philosophy that makes most of us the victims of a few. Those increased premiums were most likely simply due to the greed of insurance companies. Simple capitalism.

Matthew 25:31-46

It's clear that conservatives are not true Christians. You are proof of that.



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[rjhenn]

My wife got leukemia and the ACA saved our asses. My single case does not relate that 30 million people without healthcare finally got it. It saved many, many lives and a lot of suffering. Obama actually got the foot in the door for national healthcare. Trump is cutting feet off. Our healthcare is terrible and it needs to be fixed.
It was a step to a kinder and gentler America. Trump would shut it all down if he could. He has no compassion and no care about anyone below him.

That's been Trump for his entire life. Of course, their TDS won't allow those like Daddyo to see that reality


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[Daddyo]

My wife got leukemia and the ACA saved our asses. My single case does not relate that 30 million people without healthcare finally got it. It saved many, many lives and a lot of suffering. Obama actually got the foot in the door for national healthcare. Trump is cutting feet off. Our healthcare is terrible and it needs to be fixed.
It was a step to a kinder and gentler America. Trump would shut it all down if he could. He has no compassion and no care about anyone below him.

Sorry about your wife. My wife has health issues that require 8k per month meds. We dont have ACA but private insurance. Both of our wives conditions have been around long before ACA or Obama. In the past folks would purchase private insurance and those who couldn't afford it would be on an indigent plan of some sort or they would incur massive debt should a crisis happen with no insurance. The problem was that folks who could afford insurance refused to purchase it and then when tragedy happens they are hit hard. Same as the guy who doesn't buy home owners insurance and his home burns down. We are not responsible for that bad decision. I personally knew several people who made the decision to not purchase health ins to free up money for other things. In one case my buddy wanted a new car. I know because I made this decision for 3 years (no ins) and 5 years catastrophic coverage. During those 5 years I became very sick. I refused some expensive tests fearing the discovery of something real bad which would make getting good ins impossible. Thankfully got better and paid my premium for better ins. My point is that much of this issue was folks not wanting to pay by choice as they had the money. Now because of obama costs are through the roof.

Some good things could have been done to lower costs but the swamp wouldn't allow it ( both sides). Beyond that if you rather spent your money on dining out than buying insurance dont cry later. The answer is not giving it free to some on the backs of others. You guys dont care because their rich. Well I'm not rich and its killing my family financially.

1400 per.month this upcoming year. Double because of Obama. My taxes higher because of it and going even higher if your socialists get the white house.

I dont know how those on ACA and getting subsidies or free coverage dont feel like bums knowing that others are working and having that money stolen from them by government to pay for it. So not freaking right or fair.

[rjhenn]

I believe that capitalism with safety nets for those in true or temporary need is the key.

I dont expect you to understand that it is inherently unfair to take a man's sweat equity to give to another who did nothing to earn it. Save for the safety net system for those in true need.

All your demoncrat candidates wish to add billions to the unfunded mandates with all types of giveaways. To pay for it taxes will go up. More money will be stolen from those who earned it. At some point I will no longer work like a dog only to have 40 plus percent taken and redistributed. Like with socialism a collapse will come soon after.

Capitalism will stand on it's own just fine. Socialism never has.

Very few of the 1% "earned it". They get rich by taking advantage of others. Usually by skimming off of the hard work of others. It's doubtful that you "work like a dog". Most likely you just make sure that your employees work like dogs.
Capitalism, if unchecked, always degenerates into a banana republic, with a corrupt government, controlled by a few very wealthy families and everyone else living in abject poverty.
And Trump is on track to increase the debt by more than Obama did, if reelected. But you probably suffer from ODS, as well as TDS. So what was horrible about Obama is just fine with trump.

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