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MR. ZELDIN: What's your source outside of press reports?
MS. YOVANOVITCH: I don't recall.
MR. JORDAN: But he didn't just it seems to me if he was responding that way, he would say, okay, Mr. President, I agree with you, but he didn't say that. He said, she admired the previous President and was on his side. And you just told me you don't do that. So I'm wondering how the current President of Ukraine felt that you were on the side of Mr. Poroshenko and said this to the President of the United States.
MS. Y0VANOVITCH: I have no idea, because I think if you ask President Poroshenko, he would not agree with that statement.
MR. JORDAN: -- and got the transcript and it was public. 5o you got that information weeks before?
MS. YOVAN0VITCH: Yes.
MR. J0RDAN. Why did you get that information? Did you have any other responsibilities with continuing responsibilities with Ukraine and your former position there?
MS . YOVANOVITCH: No.
MR. J0RDAN: Why would Mr. Kent share that with you?
MS. YOVAN0VITCH: I think he knows that i still care about the bilateral relationship and I'm still interested.
MR. JORDAN. Is that normal?
MS. YOVAN0VITCH: Yeah. i mean, I think that that there are conversations about, you know, all sorts of things that take place.
MR. JORDAN. I guess what I'm asking is you got a call between two heads of state. You have certain staff, I assume NSC staff, some State Department staff, potentially Justice Department, I don't know who's all on that call, but it's probably not something that should be shared and probably not common knowledge. And yet the Deputy Assistant Secretary of State shares it with someone who is no longer involved with Ukraine, who's teaching a course at Georgetown. And I'm just wondering, is that has that ever happened before, to your knowledge?
MS . Y0VANOVITCH: I 'm sure it has.
MR. J0RDAN. Really?
MS. YOVAN0VITCH: Yeah.
MR. JORDAN. People would just share the contents of two heads of states, the President of the United States' call with someone who's not working in that particular area?
MS . Y0VANOVITCH: I - - I mean, you' re asking me my opinion.
MR. ZELDIN: Ambassador, you just testified that someone had reached out to you personally in August on your personal device?
MS. Y0VANOVITCH: I'm sorry?
MR. ZELDIN: In clarifying an answer to a question asked by the majority, I just want to understand what you were saying. A staffer or somebody reached out to you in August?
MS. YOVANOVITCH: 0h, yeah. Uh-huh. Yeah. 0n my personal email.
MR. ZELDIN: And what was that about?
MS. Y0VANOViTCH: They from the Foreign Affairs Committee, and they wanted me to come in and talk about, I guess, the circumstances of my departure.
MR. ZELDIN: Come in and talk where? Who where were they calling from?
MS . Y0VANOVITCH : No. This was an email.
MR. ZELDiN: An email. Where were they emailing you from?
MS. Y0VANOVITCH: I presume Washington. It was House Foreign Affairs.
MR. ZELDIN: A House Foreign Affairs staffer?
MS. YOVANOVITCH: Yeah.
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