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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    they're extremely disgusting.

    and they are the implementers of the banker agenda, the new world order.
    Acute paranoia.

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    My philosophy has long been that regulated capitalism works quite well for producing consumer products.

    Money and material possessions are only one measure of a nation's wealth, success, and prosperity.

    The public commons, the social welfare, and the social contract of the nation needs to be implemented and guaranteed by a representative democratic government.

    In other words, a hybrid economy. The model I generally look to is the quasi democratic socialism of Norway, Sweden, Iceland, Denmark, et al.
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    Acute paranoia.

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    acute truth you mean..

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    acute truth you mean..
    The new world order is just another wacko conspiracy theory.

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    Hello rjhenn,

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    Very good, Poli. Just as I've been saying for quite a while. We need to take chunks of socialism to patch up the great gaping holes in capitalism and chunks of capitalism to patch up the great gaping holes in socialism. Neither system works as it is.
    It makes so much sense that it's the way it is done all over the world, and actually the way it has been done in the USA back when the USA 'was great,' (whenever that was has not been specified by those who want to 'make the USA great again.')
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    Quote Originally Posted by rjhenn View Post
    The new world order is just another wacko conspiracy theory.

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    you might know it as a combination of terms like, globalization, sustainable development, un agenda 21, transhumanism, population reduction and more but wait, don't act now.

    first, you must see how the ability to create money is indeed a totalitarian control mechanism.

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    Corporations are wrong fundamentally. The fact that we accept corporations their main purpose is simply to increase profits absolves them of the blame for the damages they do. They should be held to a higher standard and not harm the environment and the health of people.
    In the beginning, corporations were chartered and the charter could be taken away if they did damage to the country. Our country was founded by people who lived under the control of British companies who did damage to American businesses . We were not even allowed to make suits as an example.
    So they were wary of corporate power and they were right. The corporation fought for more and more power, and they got it.
    The idea that corporations are people is absurd. That started the power of corporations over the country. It never slowed down. Citizens United was the last huge example.

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    Hello Gonzomin,

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    Corporations are wrong fundamentally. The fact that we accept corporations their main purpose is simply to increase profits absolves them of the blame for the damages they do. They should be held to a higher standard and not harm the environment and the health of people.
    In the beginning, corporations were chartered and the charter could be taken away if they did damage to the country. Our country was founded by people who lived under the control of British companies who did damage to American businesses . We were not even allowed to make suits as an example.
    So they were wary of corporate power and they were right. The corporation fought for more and more power, and they got it.
    The idea that corporations are people is absurd. That started the power of corporations over the country. It never slowed down. Citizens United was the last huge example.
    Weren't corporate charters originally supposed to be for a limited time? And then the corporation is dissolved? Like, 20 years max?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Gonzomin,



    Weren't corporate charters originally supposed to be for a limited time? And then the corporation is dissolved? Like, 20 years max?
    the elimination of the corporate veil would be the best thing for humanity. ( and no it's not socialism to do so. there can still be trade and hardwork, and pooling resources without them.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Let us take a moment to recap what big corporations have done for us, shall we?

    I can think of a few examples. I'm sure you can add more.

    Basically, the decision-making is all about increasing profits; all else takes on far less priority. And how is that working out for us?

    PG&E, the same company that gave us drinking water laced with Hexavalent Chromium:


    "From 1952 to 1966, Pacific Gas and Electric Company (PG&E) dumped about 370 million gallons of chromium-tainted wastewater into unlined wastewater spreading ponds around the town of Hinkley, California, located in the Mojave Desert (about 120 miles north-northeast of Los Angeles).[1][2]

    PG&E used chromium 6, or hexavalent chromium (a cheap and efficient rust suppressor), in its compressor station for natural-gas transmission pipelines.[1]:[3] Hexavalent-chromium compounds are genotoxic carcinogens.

    In 1993, legal clerk Erin Brockovich began an investigation into the health impacts of the contamination. A class-action lawsuit about the contamination was settled in 1996 for $333 million, the largest settlement of a direct-action lawsuit in U.S. history. In 2008, PG&E settled the last of the cases involved with the Hinkley claims. Since then, the town's population has dwindled to the point that in 2016 The New York Times described Hinkley as having slowly become a ghost town.[4][5] " (wiki)

    That same company is now in big trouble for PG&E wild fires being caused by it's equipment, which is not made to resist the normal winds of the dry season in the tinder-box of California.

    Boeing made decisions which resulted in two 737MAX airliner crashes which killed 300 people.
    This is the same company which narrowly averted loss of life due to 787 battery fires. The rush to profits prevented safe measures.

    Volkswagon decided emissions regulations were just too onerous
    to allow enough profits, so they cheated the entire world out of cleaner air for more money.

    Dupont killed more people than 911 in India with a gas leak from a pesticide plant. Safety regulations were bypassed to save money.

    Bayer-Monsanto decided to sell the same chemicals used in Agent Orange for domestic weed control. Who could possibly have predicted that would not end well? They just settled a huge lawsuit after a worker using their product got cancer. That was only one case, with others sure to follow. btw, they also use the same thing on our food crops. Yummy!

    Amazon placed ambulances outside it's warehouse
    because there was no air conditioning, and the inside temperatures soared as high as 115 degrees, but workers there were not allowed to slow down or take a break. Also, if any dropped and had to be stretchered off, more workers were on call and waiting to take their place. Anyone who refused lost their job. The owner of Amazon is the third richest man in the world.

    The Koch Brothers corporation knew there was lots of money to be made in the fossil fuel industry if only the public sentiment did not embrace a mass movement toward the green movement. So they embarked on a very effective mass PR effort to cloud the debate over climate change.

    Perdue Pharma decided to become a 'legal' drug pusher.
    They heavily marketed oxycontin and other pain medications, which resulted in getting a lot of people addicted, leading to destroyed lives, families and fortunes. But the Sackler family got incredibly rich.

    ENRON corporation, along with Arthur Anderson Accounting, pulled off a mass deception which made it's stock appear to be a really good deal. Many Americans bought in. They got ripped off, the books were cooked and most investors lost nearly everything.

    The Tobacco Industry marketed cigarettes to children. Get 'em hooked while they are young and you have a customer for life. Well, as long as that life lasts.

    The Auto Industry resisted installing seat belts and other safety related measures. Ralph Nader had to shame them into it. Safety improved.

    The White Star Line rushed the completion of the Titanic in a bid to have the fastest most luxurious 'unsinkable' ships on the seas. We know how that ended. Speaking of a mighty ship sinking,

    The Trump Organization
    defrauded 'students' of Trump University, promising them the secrets of wealth. The lesson they got instead was that the wealthy get that way by extracting wealth from the non-wealthy, any way they can. Lying is just as good a method as any. Trump settled for $25 Million to avoid the bad PR of a scandalous well publicized court trial. This was no one-time slip up. Instead, this was indicative of business as usual for that organization, with MANY such digressions having come to light since Trump took such a high-profile position as President of the USA.

    I could go on and on. I'm sure you can add more to this brief list. The bottom line is we cannot trust big corporations to have our better interest in mind as they pursue more profits. We must have a powerful government with strong regulations to protect ourselves and the planet from this institutionalized greed.

    Anybody who thinks government should just 'get out of the way' and let capitalism deliver for us? We should be asking them exactly WHAT they expect capitalism to deliver!

    Capitalism is a way for people with capital to get rich. That's it. Capitalism does not provide for our needs and does not have our backs. Instead, we have to WATCH our backs with capitalism around.

    Now, I am not saying we should get rid of capitalism. Conservatives should be sure to ignore my words here. We do not have to choose between capitalism and socialism. We need capitalism for all the good things it produces. Products, services, reasonable profits - these are good things! But capitalism has no reason to take care of people in need. That's why we have socialism. So we can 'Promote the General Welfare,' and 'Promote Domestic Tranquility.'

    Our challenge is not to choose between capitalism and socialism. It is to strike the correct balance between the two. (Conservatives should completely ignore that and continue to argue as if it is a choice and we can only have one system.) Admitting reality is not conservative's strong suit.
    Hmmmmmm, idk... They've merely given us every single luxury that we enjoy today, including but not limited to: easy, immediate, and cheap access to groceries at local supermarkets, computers, cell phones, TVs, Blu-Ray players, digital media, electricity, roads and railways, vehicles, airplanes, farm equipment/machinery, household appliances, clothing, you name it...

    Yup, DAMN them big corporations for providing us with such luxuries.... DAMN them to HELL!!!


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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    Hmmmmmm, idk... They've merely given us every single luxury that we enjoy today, including but not limited to: easy, immediate, and cheap access to groceries at local supermarkets, computers, cell phones, TVs, Blu-Ray players, digital media, electricity, roads and railways, vehicles, airplanes, farm equipment/machinery, household appliances, clothing, you name it...

    Yup, DAMN them big corporations for providing us with such luxuries.... DAMN them to HELL!!!

    all these these things have lulled us to sleep. there is much darkness underneath it all. I understand where you're at though. I also used to be an unconditional corporate supporter.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Gonzomin,



    Weren't corporate charters originally supposed to be for a limited time? And then the corporation is dissolved? Like, 20 years max?
    Yep. They feared the power of corporations. But corporations won as the Republicans fought for. They do not die. Corporations have an agenda and as a leader dies, the next one continued eating away at the regulations and convincing people that the wealthy and ownership society works for them. Generation after generation they keep attacking whatever diminished their profits regardless if the results hurt the rest of society.
    Competition is gone. Oligopoly is here with a plutocracy not far behind.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Yep. They feared the power of corporations. But corporations won as the Republicans fought for. They do not die. Corporations have an agenda and as a leader dies, the next one continued eating away at the regulations and convincing people that the wealthy and ownership society works for them. Generation after generation they keep attacking whatever diminished their profits regardless if the results hurt the rest of society.
    Competition is gone. Oligopoly is here with a plutocracy not far behind.
    ..and globalization is their ultimate triumph over humanity.

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    Hello Gonzomin,

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Yep. They feared the power of corporations. But corporations won as the Republicans fought for. They do not die. Corporations have an agenda and as a leader dies, the next one continued eating away at the regulations and convincing people that the wealthy and ownership society works for them. Generation after generation they keep attacking whatever diminished their profits regardless if the results hurt the rest of society.
    Competition is gone. Oligopoly is here with a plutocracy not far behind.
    I think we've already got the plutocracy. They meet at Mar-A-Lago.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    HEllo Gonzomin,



    I think we've already got the plutocracy. They meet at Mar-A-Lago.
    and the u.n., where they seek to control every aspect of human life.

    and

    the council on foreign relations
    the trilateral commission
    the bilderberg group
    the royal academy of international affairs
    the tavistock institute..
    ...many more

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