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    Quote Originally Posted by Nordberg View Post
    China is capitalistic and people can move from job to job. They are taking great strides to improve the environment and elevating the quality of life. NK is a dictatorship. Cuba is too but based in socialism.
    There is nothing about communism that doesn't allow people to move from job to job. I agree China is making steady progress toward more private ownership and free market, but the majority is still state owned or the state owns a large share.

    "China is home to 109 corporations listed on the Fortune Global 500 - but only 15% of those are privately owned."

    Clearly, the private sector is much more successful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hi Flash,



    I think the last one is going a bit too far.

    " If Trump proposed Medicare for all conservatives would support it and liberals would oppose it."

    While it is difficult to even picture Trump backing something for the disadvantaged, those who favor such programs would continue to favor them if Trump capitulated.
    Yes, it is an exaggeration; although most liberals opposed his health care plan that was killed in the Senate. It was basically Obamacare light.

    I don't think it is too much of an exaggeration to say liberals are not happy to see gains in the stock market or job growth. Partisans don't want to see the other party doing anything well.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Social welfare systems are socialism. You couldn't call it anything else.
    It is called liberalism. Medicare and Medicaid are social welfare programs in a healthcare system that is largely privately owned but with a lot of government regulation. Ownership is socialism (VA) and regulation is liberalism.

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    Hello Flash,

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Yes, it is an exaggeration; although most liberals opposed his health care plan that was killed in the Senate. It was basically Obamacare light.
    That's a pretty softball treatment of a bill that basically killed Obamacare, to call it Obamacare light.

    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    I don't think it is too much of an exaggeration to say liberals are not happy to see gains in the stock market or job growth. Partisans don't want to see the other party doing anything well.
    I am all for positive growth but a) I don't trust this growth as healthy and sustainable, and b) It's wracking up way too much debt. It's on borrowed money and time. We had our fling, now it's tapering off.

    And one of the reasons for stock growth has nothing to do with new jobs and expansion. Nothing real and lasting. It is because of stock buy backs. A short term stock boost. The consumer market is tapped out. There is no potential market to expand into. The consumer class doesn't have the money to spend on anything else because wages have not grown on a commensurate basis with stocks. We're stuck.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello Flash,



    That's a pretty softball treatment of a bill that basically killed Obamacare, to call it Obamacare light.



    I am all for positive growth but a) I don't trust this growth as healthy and sustainable, and b) It's wracking up way too much debt. It's on borrowed money and time. We had our fling, now it's tapering off.

    And one of the reasons for stock growth has nothing to do with new jobs and expansion. Nothing real and lasting. It is because of stock buy backs. A short term stock boost. The consumer market is tapped out. There is no potential market to expand into. The consumer class doesn't have the money to spend on anything else because wages have not grown on a commensurate basis with stocks. We're stuck.
    this is the whole economy though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Greedy Corporation Trick number 4733:
    Not a trick.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Have you noticed changes in fast food?
    Yes.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It used to be that you could get a burger for one price, and then add cheese if you like, for an extra upcharge. Fair enough. Seems reasonable, right?
    It is still this way, depending on where you go. Some places offer hamburgers separate from cheeseburgers, and other places just offer cheeseburgers. Go to the place which offers their food the way that you wish it to be offered.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Well, get ready for greed based fast food.
    Oh dear...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Now the cheese is included and the price is already higher. And if you want the item without cheese, no discount. You pay for it whether you want it or not.
    No change here. Places have always offered hamburgers in different ways. Go to the places which offer them how you want them. Nobody is forcing you to go to places which only offer cheeseburgers.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Not all restaurants are doing this, but this is the new greedy corporation trick, and it is catching on.
    Precisely, so GO. TO. THE. ONES. WHICH. ARE. NOT. DOING. THIS. IF. YOU. DON'T. LIKE. THIS. You have options. You are not being forced to buy cheeseburgers at the same price as hamburgers. You can go elsewhere where they offer hamburgers separate from cheeseburgers.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    If we don't care, they will all be doing it soon enough.
    No, they won't.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    All we can do is identify the restaurants which do this and stop shopping there. That is the only thing they care about.
    Good. Shop wherever you want. Nobody is stopping you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    I also wonder if that is really cheese or not.
    It is cheese. Maybe not as tasty as other cheeses, but it is cheese all the same.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    When you buy real cheese at a grocery store and put it on a burger it tastes different than the 'cheese' at a fast food restaurant.
    Yeah, and when you buy cheese from a local cheese factory's store, it tastes different than the cheese at a grocery store (unless you are buying that same cheese from the grocery store). Different brands of cheese will taste differently. Different types of cheese will taste differently. That doesn't mean that one is cheese and the other isn't. I thought you didn't like cheese on your hamburgers...??

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    One time, I was on a business trip. I had what I thought was a cool idea. I went to a mid grade sit-down restaurant for dinner and got a salad bar to go deal. That's where they give you a styrofoam clam shell and you can load it up at the salad bar and pay a set price. OK, fine. I did that and made a meal of it. I was also thinking ahead and got some extra 'cheese.' It was the shredded cheese you can sprinkle on your salad. I wanted some cheese so I could use it the next morning at the hotel 'free' breakfast that you pay for in the price of the hotel. It's a trick I have often used, much to the envy of other hotel patrons at the breakfast tables as they look over and see my 'scrambled eggs' with bits of steak, salza, peppers and things I have saved from a meal the night before in the hotel room fridge.

    OK, so I took some of this 'cheese' and tried to use it on the 'scrambled eggs' the next morning.

    It was disgusting. It didn't taste like cheese at all, and it hardly melted in the micro-nuke.
    So you stole cheese from a salad bar, put it on some eggs (were they "real" eggs?? ), and bitched about the dry cheese that you stole from the salad bar because it apparently wasn't "real" cheese?? ... Interesting...

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Greedy Corporation Trick number 4734:
    Not a trick.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Not everything that looks like cheese is really cheese.

    What a cheesy trick!

    They are selling something that looks like food but it probably has no nutritional value at all.
    Not a trick. It is cheese. How do you know that your eggs were "real" eggs? Maybe it was the eggs and not the cheese?? Them DAMN corporations...

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    but internationalist fascism relies on it to buttress oligarch power.
    Quite right. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    It is called liberalism. Medicare and Medicaid are social welfare programs in a healthcare system that is largely privately owned but with a lot of government regulation. Ownership is socialism (VA) and regulation is liberalism.
    Fascism is socialism. It is just a step on the road to communism. The government doesn't have to own a business. They can simply own the operation of a private business. It is the same: socialism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by gfm7175 View Post
    It is cheese. Maybe not as tasty as other cheeses, but it is cheese all the same.
    Spoken like a true citizen of Wisconsin!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Quite right. Socialism can only exist by stealing wealth.
    and generousity exemplifies good character.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    and generousity exemplifies good character.
    That it does, as long as it's voluntary generosity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    That it does, as long as it's voluntary generosity.
    so what about trillionaires who champion depopulation?

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    Bought a half gallon of milk lately?

    Well, you can't.

    Not anymore.

    Oh, the cartons are still out there.

    They are the same cartons. Capable of holding 64 oz of milk.

    They just don't fill them up anymore.

    Check the label.

    It's not 64 oz anymore.

    Try 59 oz.

    Go ahead. Look in your fridge.

    59 oz.

    Oh, you still pay the same.

    You get less for your money.

    Greedy Corporation dirty trick number 4735.

    The (not) half gallon of milk.

    This rip-off brought to you by greedy capitalism.

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    Milk is $1.99 a gallon...I'm not going to worry about two tablespoons of milk

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