Obama’s Tarnished Legacy in the Middle East

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Obama has the deaths of hundreds of thousands on his hands, why are you all so stupid? You'd do well to shut your yap and read this extremely well written piece in the Cairo Review.

On Obama’s watch Al-Qaeda went into decline. A much-trumpeted act of this administration was the killing of Osama Bin Laden by a Navy Seal team in 2011. But Obama’s eagerness to withdraw U.S. forces from Iraq, and his indecisiveness about how to handle the crisis in Syria, led to the rise of the Islamic State in Iraq and Syria (ISIS)—the latest and most vicious of apocalyptic terror movements in modern times.

What makes Obama’s failure more salient, as he struggles in his final year in office to shape his legacy in the Middle East, is the catastrophe in Syria. The civil war has led to the disintegration and radicalization of the country, the destruction of Syrian society, and contributed to the biggest refugee crisis since the Second World War. All of this was brought on in no small part by Obama’s indecisiveness, tepid actions, and about-turns.

Historians in the future may differ in their assessments of the extent of Obama’s culpability in the region’s calamities, but he will not escape the harsh judgment that his actions and inactions contributed significantly to the great unraveling of the Middle East.

https://www.thecairoreview.com/essay...e-middle-east/

[countryboy]

Is the article suggesting that Obama should have poured US troops into Syria? I thought that was BAD!

And I thought that was GOOD.

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You can deny it as much as you like and bang on about SOFA and Bush, however it's undeniably true that Obama screwed up and you're all in denial about it.

Sorry, Democrats: Obama Is More Responsible For ISIS Than Trump

https://www.forbes.com/sites/thomasd.../#7b4d5e26ff99

[dukkha]

What makes Obama’s failure more salient, as he struggles in his final year in office to shape his legacy in the Middle East, is the catastrophe in Syria. The civil war has led to the disintegration and radicalization of the country, the destruction of Syrian society, and contributed to the biggest refugee crisis since the Second World War.
All of this was brought on in no small part by Obama’s indecisiveness, tepid actions, and about-turns.

Obama certainly bungled his "arming Syrian rebels" (most of the weapons made their way to al-Nusra and the jihadi).
And no doubt Obama completely froze up when it came to (not) strafing ISIS convoys in Iraq.
And of course he & Hillary own Libya and it's terrible aftermath still today.

But i wouldn't say he has much else to do with Syria Civil war.

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Obama certainly bungled his "arming Syrian rebels" (most of the weapons made their way to al-Nusra and the jihadi).
And no doubt Obama completely froze up when it came to (not) strafing ISIS convoys in Iraq.
And of course he & Hillary own Libya and it's terrible aftermath still today.

But i wouldn't say he has much else to do with Syria Civil war.

He should have left a rapid reaction force behind, but was more concerned with keeping his base happy.

[moon]

Bush left billions of dollars in cash in Iraq. The thinking was, possibly, that all factions would arm themselves with it and wipe each other out.
Or maybe it was plain stupidity.



Whoever- they were ALL in Iraq for ' Izrael's security '. Dumbasses.

[dukkha]

He should have left a rapid reaction force behind, but was more concerned with keeping his base happy.

True. the story is al_Sadr was threatening to hold any Americans left under Iraqi law.
And Obama used that reasoning to completely pull out.

Obama could have tried to leave a reaction force,but I doubt he ever wanted to do so.

I persoanlly don't care, since the Iraqi army was so bad, even U.S. residuals could not have kept it together
when it faced ISIS

But the lack of strafing and the "JV" remarks were inexcusable

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Obama has the deaths of hundreds of thousands on his hands, why are you all so stupid? You'd do well to shut your yap and read this extremely well written piece in the Cairo Review.



https://www.thecairoreview.com/essay...e-middle-east/

This needs bumping, that's means you Mott!

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This needs bumping, that's means you Mott!

Bump!

[tsuke]

Can you imagine a Bernie Sanders presidency though? The US would go from the side of Israel to openly supporting Hamas in one day.

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Can you imagine a Bernie Sanders presidency though? The US would go from the side of Israel to openly supporting Hamas in one day.

I think that realpolitik would hit him soon enough but yeh he'd be a walking disaster for a good year or more. The world has very little time for a naive fool like him, so he'd have to change to remain in power.

[dukkha]

Sanders always said he would "lead a coalition" on foreign affairs -like that's going to just magically happen (not) without US leadership

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Sanders always said he would "lead a coalition" on foreign affairs -like that's going to just magically happen (not) without US leadership

Sounds very much like the bullshit Corbyn used to spout, two peas in a pod!