Reply With QuoteSo homosexuality won't become a qualification for 20 years with you lefties? Guess you have to get your black, female, Muslim, fake native American and other identity politics candidates first, huh?Originally Posted by Micawber
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Hahaha! Your beef with Pete Buttplug is that he told the truth about one of your side's bs positions.
*Referring to single payer, aka government run healthcare, aka socialized medicine, sometimes wrongly called Medicare for all...*
...would kick “150 million Americans off of their insurance in four short years.”...
-Pete Buttplug
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So homosexuality won't become a qualification for 20 years with you lefties? Guess you have to get your black, female, Muslim, fake native American and other identity politics candidates first, huh?
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No, for the lefties, homosexuality doesn't rank as high on the identity politics list as black, female, and a few others on the identity politics list
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He did not tell the truth and instead spouted bull shit and did you not read the OP? The point is, in case you are not very quick on the uptake...
And what is "my side?" This is not an effing football game despite the fact that many RWNJ's see it that way. Dumbed-down reality show mentality at it's worst. My so called "side" is the patriotic ideology of the common good and general welfare of e pluribus unum and I sure as hell know what the ideology of your "side." is.South Bend, Indiana Mayor Pete Buttigieg—the leading recipient of campaign cash from the healthcare industry among Democratic presidential candidates—went on the offensive against Medicare for All with right-wing talking points during Tuesday night's debate, bashing the popular proposal as a tax hike on the middle class that would kick "150 million Americans off of their insurance in four short years."
Buttigieg's debate performance was met with enthusiastic applause from cable news talking heads and conservative commentators, but progressive critics and health policy experts said the mayor's attacks on Medicare for All were deceptive at best and, at worst, blatant falsehoods.
"Mayor Pete was spinning a pack of lies about Medicare for All last night," The Week's Ryan Cooper tweeted Wednesday morning.
https://www.commondreams.org/news/20...ming-insurance
Last edited by Cinnabar; 10-22-2019 at 02:27 PM.
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Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
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1) There is no such thing as Medicare for all. That is a liberal lie, necessitated by the fact that the American people don't want government run healthcare aka socialized medicine. So you liars focus grouped other names for it and settled on the MFA LIE.
2)The program lying leftists call Medicare for all will lead to higher taxes on the middle class. Your bro Bernie admitted it.
3)The program lying leftists call Medicare for all outlaws private insurance, effectively "kicking 150 million Americans off of their private insurance in four short years."
Mayor Buttplug told the truth, and you hate him for it, just like I'd expect from a dishonest lefty. Dishonesty is the only way you can get the American people to vote for your agenda. Trick a bunch of low IQ people who don't pay attention or understand issues.
I'm glad you asked. Your side is made up of people who want to exercise control over the way the rest of us live our lives. Your side wants to trample on individual liberty, because when people are free to do as they please, they reject your agenda. Your side is full of pipe dreamers who come up with socialist utopia schemes that crash and burn when they butt up against that pesky human nature thing.And what is "my side?" This is not an effing football game despite the fact that many RWNJ's see it that way. Dumbed-down reality show mentality at it's worst. My so called "side" is the patriotic ideology of the common good and general welfare of e pluribus unum and I sure as hell know what the ideology of your "side." is.
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He lied and only an insurance company shill would not admit it. The link I provided explains it simply enough for a five year old to get it so you either read it and it was way over your head or you didn't even bother.
"What really matters here is that, while Medicare for All would require some additional taxes on the middle class, those increases would be more than compensated for by zeroing out premiums, co-pays, and deductibles," Cooper noted.
Buttigieg's claim that Medicare for All would cost trillions of dollars—and that his incremental plan, called "Medicare for All Who Want It," would cost less—was also false, Cooper said.
"He was likely referencing the study from the libertarian Mercatus Center about how much additional tax revenue would be needed to finance Medicare for All—just over $30 trillion, as Joe Biden said later. What that figure leaves out is that total healthcare spending under universal Medicare would go down by some $2 trillion over a decade," Cooper wrote. "Those savings would necessarily be less in more fragmented systems which would preserve private insurance—like the one proposed by Pete Buttigeig. In other words, Mayor Pete's plan would be more expensive than Medicare for All."
"Mayor Pete sounds like he's on the payroll of the Republican National Committee," economist and former Labor Secretary Robert Reich tweeted during Tuesday night's debate.
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
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So you admit, you lack the reading comprehension of a five year old.
I don't give a shit about your "offsets". Most people who have employer provided coverage pay only a fraction of their premiums. The employer pays the majority of the cost as part of your compensation. Do you really believe "evil corporations" are going to add that money that they are paying on your behalf to your check when the premiums go away? Dunce!...Medicare for All would require some additional taxes on the middle class...
^The only way that could possibly be true is if care is rationed. People don't want that. I'll keep my employer provided health care, fuck you very much....total healthcare spending under universal Medicare would go down by some $2 trillion over a decade...
dukkha (10-22-2019)
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Keep your dammed coverage because no one gives a shit about that. I live in a society and would appreciate and benefit from everyone around me having access to affordable healthcare because I am not a self-centered sociopath and have an expansive enough mind to see the overall positive affect it would have on society as a whole.So you admit, you lack the reading comprehension of a five year old.
I don't give a shit about your "offsets". Most people who have employer provided coverage pay only a fraction of their premiums. The employer pays the majority of the cost as part of your compensation. Do you really believe "evil corporations" are going to add that money that they are paying on your behalf to your check when the premiums go away? Dunce!
^The only way that could possibly be true is if care is rationed. People don't want that. I'll keep my employer provided health care, fuck you very much.
Last edited by Cinnabar; 10-22-2019 at 03:42 PM.
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
Althea told me...........
I think this is a commentary on the entire system, as opposed to any one candidate.
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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Totally, but no reason to support the flip-flopper who is claiming to be what he is not. There are better more altruistic choices who are not outright bought and paid for.
Last edited by Cinnabar; 10-22-2019 at 03:42 PM.
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
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Typical lefty LIE. The socialized medicine schemers don't want people who are happy with their private insurance to keep it. They need those dollars to pay for their government run programs. Unless you mean my employer and I can continue to pay for my insurance AND be taxed to death to pay for your socialized medicine scheme.
Hahaha, anyone who likes their current health care situation and doesn't want their taxes to skyrocket to pay for other people's is a sociopath. You guys are hilarious! You're just so VIRTUOUS, aren't you?I live in a society and would appreciate and benefit from everyone around me having access to affordable healthcare because I am not a self-centered sociopath and have an expansive enough mind to see the overall positive affect it would have on society as a whole.
dukkha (10-22-2019)
Althea told me...........
In theory, sure. But they're all bought and paid for. Don't let the 'I only take small private donations' claim fool you. Sadly, Mayor Pete might be the most intelligent and most open minded candidate in the field. He reminds me of Obama for his ability to weigh both sides of an issue and determine the best course of action
Once in a while you get shown the light, in the strangest of places if you look at it right.
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You are just against anyone that might actually stop your welfare and make you pay your own way. Here is a hint, you might want to start worrying about that.
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Homophobe.
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His responses have changed because he is now being corporate led. Never was on my radar anyway as he not a Progressive. They are turning to him now as a substitute for Biden...No thanks!
BLUEXITA Modest Proposal For Separating Blue States From Red
Dear Red-State Trump Voter,
Let’s face it, guys: We’re done.
It is a tragedy that so much of the work that so many men and women toiled at for so long to make this a better country, and a better world, has been thrown away, leaving us all in such needless peril.
This is why our separation in all but name is necessary.
https://newrepublic.com/article/1409...mp-red-america
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