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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    As I've related before, I used to work as a cook in a county jail with a fairly large population (300+ at any given time) of inmates representative of that jail's outside community. IOW, most of the inmates were white and almost every one put down "Christian" as his/her religion on the intake forms. We knew this because we would get a daily print-out of that day's inmate population, which included their age/race/religion/unit/status within the jail (i.e., inmate, weekender, inmate-worker, etc.) I got into a spat with my boss one time because she always honored the Muslims' request to be given non-pork meals, but she refused to honor the 2-3 Buddhists' requests for a vegan diet. She claimed that Buddhism wasn't a "real" religion. Yet she had us prepare vegan meals for the lone Seventh-Day Adventist inmate that once graced the place.

    At any rate, I think the inmates were doing just what you stated: Putting down a religious preference just because Xtian was what they grew up with. As you might imagine, a lot of them "found Jesus" while in jail. lol

    I think Xtians like RB, Stretch, PMP, etc. are strident, fearful, and angry because they know that they are a dying breed. So desperate that they embrace the most god-less venal POS POTUS we've ever been cursed with.
    Interesting story.
    To be honest, I think it is genetic. Some people are just predisposed to Cultism. If RB were in the Middle East, he would be a fanatic supporter of Islam. (just my opinion)

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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    None of that will involve the whores and porn stars and it definitely won't be fun.

    Make jokes all you want. Rest assured, you will be begging for mercy. Sad part is it will be too late to receive any.



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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    So many unanswered questions.

    If there is a God, who created God?

    (and the usual answer is God always existed, and has no creator)

    But there is no proof that time itself always existed.

    But, let us say for just a moment that God always existed. He existed for all time going back to infinity, before he created the Earth and the Heavens (in 6 days).

    Just the creation thing is a bit absurd when you think about it. Before there was an Earth, there were no 'days.'

    None the less, let us ponder for a moment this God entity always existing for all infinity backwards in time before creating Earth and humanity.

    All alone. With nothingness all around. For all time going back. Wow. That musta been lonely.

    What was he doing for all that time?

    And what. Did he just get bored? Why, after all infinity before the creation, would this entity suddenly decide the thing to do was to create Earth and humanity? And then give it a ticking time clock? Oh, it's only going to last so long and then the bottom drops out. That sounds ridiculous.

    What was the point of it all?

    Like I said, there are just too many unanswered questions.

    Believers have tried to answer my questions but never to any logical satisfaction.

    Just a small part of why I am an atheist.

    Now, I don't mean to put down religion.

    You are free to believe in anything you like. It's all on faith. I have no way to disprove what you believe in any more than you can disprove what I do not believe in.

    And hey. I have my own faith. What is faith anyway? It is the belief in something which cannot be proven.

    I have faith that in the long run humans will get it right and endure. I have faith that most humans are basically good and wish others well. We humans care for one another and for all of humanity. That's my faith. I can't prove it, but I believe it anyway. Out of my faith comes my logic that we should treat one another with respect. Nobody told me this stuff. I realize it's the kind of thing you have to figure out for yourself. And I feel much better about that than listening to somebody else tell me how to think.
    It's kind of hard to be respectful of your beliefs when you're so disrespectful of what others choose to believe here. Yet, we are....
    In the above post you say everyone is free to believe what they like...yet the majority of your posts say otherwise....Hmmm...am i missing something?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    He doesn't believe in Hell. He will when he gets there for eternity. Too late then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PostmodernProphet View Post
    someone's failed experiment with using an AI text generator to post.......
    As this Christian Jihadis "serve the Pope or die" AI propaganda generator is on the glitz posting "man is God" fabricated misnomer of immaculate conception for "death to the infidels"......

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello StoneByStone,



    I disagree.

    The ones that pertain to how to treat God are meaningful only to those who are believers, but they are the minority. More of them pertain to how to treat other people, and all of those make a sensible guide for interaction in society.

    Most of the Ten are actually very smart.
    Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
    And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
    And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
    It's wrong for you to covet the things the rest of us earned by believing the government should take from us so it can give to you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by saltydancin View Post
    As this Christian Jihadis "serve the Pope or die" AI propaganda generator is on the glitz posting "man is God" fabricated misnomer of immaculate conception for "death to the infidels"......
    your intelligence is exceptionally artificial......
    Isaiah 6:5
    Woe to me! I cried. I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Interesting story.
    To be honest, I think it is genetic. Some people are just predisposed to Cultism. If RB were in the Middle East, he would be a fanatic supporter of Islam. (just my opinion)
    You think I'd be a jihadist?

    Nah. I wouldn't shoot anyone unless they were a threat to myself, my family or my property. Same thing as here in the US.
    Common sense is not a gift, it's a punishment because you have to deal with everyone who doesn't have it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
    And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
    even for atheists, these.....
    Remember the sabbath day, to keep it holy (you need a rest now and then)
    Honor thy father and thy mother
    Thou shalt not murder
    Thou shalt not commit adultery
    Thou shalt not steal
    Thou shalt not bear false witness against thy neighbor
    Thou shalt not covet

    and I would certainly expect you to like the one about not worshipping graven images......

    atheists shouldn't have imaginary morals......
    Isaiah 6:5
    Woe to me! I cried. I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.

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    Hello TOP,

    Quote Originally Posted by TOP View Post
    It's kind of hard to be respectful of your beliefs when you're so disrespectful of what others choose to believe here. Yet, we are....
    In the above post you say everyone is free to believe what they like...yet the majority of your posts say otherwise....Hmmm...am i missing something?
    I don't care if you respect my beliefs or not as long as you don't try to make it about me. The way I see it, simply allowing other people to believe whatever they want is being respectful enough as far as that is concerned.

    Stating why you believe differently is not showing disrespect. It's just people listening to one another explain why they believe the things they do. Gives others a different perspective to compare to their own belief system. Most people are pretty well settled in their beliefs so changing anybody's mind about something is rare, but it does occur. I have certainly adjusted my views after hearing why others believe differently. The talking about stuff is the good thing. Taking some time to examine a subject, search aspects of it, read up a little, learn some more, it all helps refine views. That's why I am not so much into the interpersonal games so common here. If you've noticed, I just mainly want to focus on the actual subject at hand.

    I probably spend just as much time researching the topics I discuss here at JPP as I spend actively reading or making posts.
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    Hello StoneByStone,

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    Name the Ten Commandments that make for a sensible guide for interaction.
    Honor your parents, No murdering, adultery, stealing, lying or coveting.[/QUOTE]

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    And adults shouldn't have imaginary friends.
    That's up to them as long as they don't try to force me into their beliefs.
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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    It just 'makes the case' for Governments staying out of 'religions'. The Founders knew that. The Cultists can do whatever they like, the Government shouldn't encourage them though.
    The danger is when the administration becomes the cult. To have a full arm of the government (and more) indoctrinating people into believing wrong things is very dangerous to our republic.
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    Hello Jack,

    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    Hah! They are ALREADY the 'minority'. Who believes in 'Man-Gods'? Who believes in the Occult and Magic, besides the Harry Potter fans?
    A casual dismissing is inappropriate there.

    Remember: Harry Potter is extremely popular.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jack View Post
    They enjoy living in their Make-Believe world. I doubt they will change.
    Wouldn't this apply equally to all religious beliefs?

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