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    In early October, however, news broke that the complainant had come to Schiff’s staff before filing. Schiff stopped demanding the testimony, and last Sunday he claimed it was no longer needed. While the extent of their coordination is unknown, the major problem was that the discussions were undisclosed by both Schiff and the anti-Trump complainant. Schiff had publicly denied any such interactions while the bureaucrat failed to mention the contacts when specifically asked about them on a government form.

    The final portion of the whistleblower form requires whistleblowers to attest under penalty of perjury that they have neither misstated nor concealed material facts in their complaints.

    “I certify that all of the statements made in this complaint (including any continuation pages) are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief,” whistleblowers are required to attest. “I understand that, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 1001, a false statement or concealment of a material fact is a criminal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both.”

    The complaint was composed of second-hand claims, full of gossip and rumor, and riddled with false assertions, as indicated by the actual transcript.

    Democrats have dramatically switched from demanding transparency about the whistleblower complaint to hiding depositions, transcripts, and evidence. In contrast, President Trump declassified the transcript of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, and documents surrounding the whistleblower complaint.

    Democrats have insisted on holding their inquisition in secret behind closed doors and are now refusing to allow the whistleblower to testify as both the whistleblower and Schiff had claimed to want prior to the news of their coordination.

    Similarly, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has refused to hold a vote on the House floor authorizing an impeachment investigation and delegating investigation authority to a committee for that purpose.

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    Republican House members are eager to question the individual whose allegations could lead them to have to vote for or against impeachment on the House floor. These questions include:
    When did you or anyone you’re associated with first approach Democrats on the staff?
    Did you or your team contact any Republicans?
    Did you contact anyone in the Republican-controlled Senate? If not, why not?
    Did you or your team have any interactions with any member of the media?
    You claim that more than one-half dozen U.S. officials told you this information.
    Please name them and say what they told you.
    Have you had any contact with any individuals running for president or their staff in the last three years?
    While you worked at the National Security Council, did you have any interactions with members of the media regarding internal confidential information within the council?
    Were you aware at any point of efforts to have you removed from the National Security Council due to allegations of leaking to the media?
    Are any of the allegations in your complaint supported by firsthand evidence, be it eyewitness or documents? If so, please cite page and line number.

    Republican members of the House Permanent Select Committee on Intelligence have written a letter to Schiff about his concealment of key documents and evidence from the full committee. It ended by noting that the decision to hide the key witness from questioning severs any feasible tie to the Intelligence Committee.

    “The highly irregular manner in which you are conducting your so-called ‘impeachment inquiry’ gravely concerns us, as does the fact that you have decreed this matter to be under HPSCI’s jurisdiction despite it lacking any clear intelligence component. Further, given that you have recently acknowledged that the Committee no longer needs to receive testimony from the whistleblower, your ‘impeachment inquiry’ lacks any relationship with the jurisdiction of this Committee,” all Republican members of the committee wrote in a letter, adding that “partisan activities” are “best suited for another Committee.”
    https://thefederalist.com/2019/10/18...-coordination/

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    spamming about Parliament isn't doing you any good.
    all this blather falls apart when you look at the text. the text refers to crimes
    I’m trying to give you the origins of the term “high crimes and misdemeanors” that the founders employed, you fucking idiot.

    Isn’t it something that I’ve been citing references and you’ve given nothing but your ignorant opinion

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    dumb ass domer repeating the same thing doesn't change the facts that the hearings are held in secret ( no transcripts -just selective leaking) so the American people can't see the full picture just Schiff's narrative

    Then what? the House is going to vote on Schiff's narrative? -which is why due process and transparency is needed for an impeachment vote - not voting on Schiffs report or whatever flim-flam he puts out besides leaks
    Why do you even bother with the nasty cunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    In early October, however, news broke that the complainant had come to Schiff’s staff before filing. Schiff stopped demanding the testimony, and last Sunday he claimed it was no longer needed. While the extent of their coordination is unknown, the major problem was that the discussions were undisclosed by both Schiff and the anti-Trump complainant. Schiff had publicly denied any such interactions while the bureaucrat failed to mention the contacts when specifically asked about them on a government form.

    The final portion of the whistleblower form requires whistleblowers to attest under penalty of perjury that they have neither misstated nor concealed material facts in their complaints.

    “I certify that all of the statements made in this complaint (including any continuation pages) are true, complete, and correct to the best of my knowledge and belief,” whistleblowers are required to attest. “I understand that, pursuant to 18 U.S.C. 1001, a false statement or concealment of a material fact is a criminal offense punishable by a fine of up to $10,000, imprisonment for up to five years, or both.”

    The complaint was composed of second-hand claims, full of gossip and rumor, and riddled with false assertions, as indicated by the actual transcript.

    Democrats have dramatically switched from demanding transparency about the whistleblower complaint to hiding depositions, transcripts, and evidence. In contrast, President Trump declassified the transcript of the July 25 phone call between Trump and Ukraine President Volodymyr Zelensky, and documents surrounding the whistleblower complaint.

    Democrats have insisted on holding their inquisition in secret behind closed doors and are now refusing to allow the whistleblower to testify as both the whistleblower and Schiff had claimed to want prior to the news of their coordination.

    Similarly, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi has refused to hold a vote on the House floor authorizing an impeachment investigation and delegating investigation authority to a committee for that purpose.


    Keep whining, crybaby. The House sets their own rules. All your wailing and gnashing of teeth won’t change that.

    Ignorant loser


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    Quote Originally Posted by Havana Moon View Post
    Why do you even bother with the nasty cunt?

    Groan for me, limey cunt. Groan for me.

    So far today, you’ve done just as I have commanded you.

    Good little bitch.

    I own you, cunt. Living rent free in your head.


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    a House Impeachment Inquiry of Bill Clinton.

    this Judiciary Committee, which was run by the Republicans. The Chairman was Henry Hyde of Illinois, they decided to prepare a resolution.

    "It is the intention of the Committee that its investigation will be conducted in all respects on a fair, impartial and bipartisan or nonpartisan basis. In this spirit, the power to authorize subpoenas and other compulsory process is committed by this resolution in the first instance, to the Chairman and the Ranking Minority Member acting jointly."

    "If either declines to act, the other may act alone, subject to the right of either to refer the question to the Committee for decision prior to issuance, and a meeting of the Committee will be convened properly to consider the question."

    In other words, the Chairman and the Ranking Member, Democrat and the Republican will have equal ability to issue subpoenas.
    They could do it jointly, they can do it separately. If there's a challenge, the full Committee hears it, and it's done in public.

    today the Democrats are the only ones who can issue subpoenas and call witnesses and cross examine and all the rest of it.

    It went on. "October 5, 1998, the Committee met in open session and ordered reported the resolution printed herein by a vote of 21 to 16."

    "Need for the resolution,Because the issue of impeachment is of such overwhelming importance. The Committee decided that it must receive authorization from the full House before proceeding on any further course of action."

    "Because impeachment is delegated solely to the House of Representatives by the Constitution. The full House of Representatives should be involved in critical decision making regarding various stages of impeachment."

    You see how Bill Clinton was treated by a Republican House of Representatives, by a Chairman of the Judiciary Committee, a Republican by the name of Henry Hyde.

    "Also a resolution authorizing an Impeachment Inquiry into the conduct of a President is consistent with past practice," they write. "According to Hind's Precedents, quote, 'the impeachment of President Johnson was set in motion by a resolution authorizing a general investigation as to the execution of the laws."

    They go on. "The impeachment investigation of President Nixon was explicitly authorized by the full House during debate of H.Res. 803 in 1974." Chairman Rodino, "We've reached the point when it is important that the House explicitly confirm my responsibility under the Constitution. We are asking the House to authorize and direct the Committee on the Judiciary to investigate the conduct of the President of the United States."

    He further says, "Such a resolution has always been passed by the House."
    https://www.foxnews.com/transcript/l...resident-trump

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