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    MEXICO CITY — It was the most important operation against organized crime in years. At almost every step, it went awry.

    On Thursday afternoon in the northwestern city of Culiacán, soldiers and police arrived in a convoy at the home where Ovidio Guzmán López, the son of former drug kingpin Joaquin “El Chapo” Guzmán, was staying, a sprawling compound behind 15-foot concrete walls.

    The younger Guzmán was a leading figure in the Sinaloa Cartel, which his father had built from Culiacán into one of the world’s most powerful criminal organizations until his arrest in 2016.
    Ovidio Guzmán was seen as an heir apparent — in February he’d been indicted by the U.S. Justice Department for “knowingly, intentionally, and willfully” distributing drugs to be exported into the United States.

    But as Mexican security officials crept closer to Guzmán on Thursday, they were informed that they did not yet have an arrest warrant for him. They needed to wait, according to Security Minister Alfonso Durazo — a remarkable misstep that quickly turned the city of Culiacán into an urban war zone and ultimately led to the release of one of Mexico’s most infamous drug traffickers.

    The bungled operation in Culiacán offered vivid proof that in parts of Mexico, the government can be outmanned, outgunned and outsmarted by drug cartels. It marked one of the most embarrassing moments of Andrés Manuel López Obrador’s presidency, forcing the country’s leader to explain why his government returned Guzman to the Sinaloa Cartel: “We can’t value the capture of a criminal more than the lives of people,” he said at a Friday news conference.

    The failed operation is also certain to drive a wedge between the United States and Mexico on counternarcotics and security strategy. Guzmán’s arrest was meant as a first step toward extradition to the United States, López Obrador said.

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    As soon as Mexican security forces arrived at the home, the Sinaloa cartel mobilized, dispatching convoys of gunmen in pickup trucks with mounted machine guns, seizing main roads and highways.
    At least 49 prisoners escaped from detention. Meanwhile, the Mexican soldiers and police had no backup, according to Durazo.

    Videos quickly emerged of gun battles across the city and incinerated cars sending plumes of smoke into the sky. One video appeared to capture the prison break. Another showed schoolchildren taking cover behind a car. Another showed a confrontation between a truckload of soldiers and cartel members, who vastly outnumbered them.

    Eight soldiers were detained. At least eight people were killed. A helicopter took gunfire.

    Thousands of Mexicans watched the videos in real-time.

    “The [cartel] deployed across the city,” López Obrador said at the news conference, explaining the threat posed by the cartel and the “many citizens at risk.”

    Top security officials “decided to protect the lives of people, and I was in support of that,” he said.

    By evening, not long after a mug shot of Guzmán circulated online, news spread that he had been released back to the cartel. Three other cartel members were detained and then released along with Guzmán, part of a “political deal,” according to a senior military official who spoke on the condition of anonymity because he was not authorized to speak to the media on the matter.

    Thursday’s disaster was, for many Mexicans, the most vivid distillation of López Obrador’s security policy, which still includes high-level targeted operations, but also entails a willingness to concede to a criminal organization to avoid violent retaliation.
    https://www.washingtonpost.com/world...732_story.html

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    if you missed this while watching US politicians go apoplectic over the war zone in Syria instead of the war zone
    in Mexico you are not alone

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    if you missed this while watching US politicians go apoplectic over the war zone in Syria instead of the war zone
    in Mexico you are not alone
    Good point.

    Let’s start using Seal Team Six closer to home.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Good point.

    Let’s start using Seal Team Six closer to home.
    why are we worried about the Turk/Syria border instead of the war zone (Mexico) on our border?

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    why are we worried about the Turk/Syria border instead of the war zone (Mexico) on our border?
    You tell me and we’ll both know lol.
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    We have opioids and other drugs flowing into this country across our southern border at a horrible cost to our own citizens and we’re off doing who knows what 7,000 miles away.

    Where are the Kurds when you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    You tell me and we’ll both know lol.
    neocon preening.
    Everybody wants to be Tough on Assad, or Tough on Russia, or just don't understand ( willful ignorance) that this isn't the first foray of Erdogan into Syria..

    it's a simplistic analysis, when in fact Erdogan was going in whether we has a "presence" there or not

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    We have opioids and other drugs flowing into this country across our southern border at a horrible cost to our own citizens and we’re off doing who knows what 7,000 miles away.

    Where are the Kurds when you need them.
    lol..
    China and the cartels seem to have something going (?) -how are they getting all the fentanyl?

    The China Connection: How One D.E.A. Agent Cracked a Global Fentanyl Ring
    https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/16/m...drug-ring.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    neocon preening.
    Everybody wants to be Tough on Assad, or Tough on Russia, or just don't understand ( willful ignorance) that this isn't the first foray of Erdogan into Syria..

    it's a simplistic analysis, when in fact Erdogan was going in whether we has a "presence" there or not
    Erdogan will go ‘into Syria’ just far enough to secure his own border. There are other ways to be tough on Russia besides hindering them in Syria. Assuming being ‘tough on Russia’ is one’s obsession. Syria is a Russian client state and anyone who thinks we should start a war over that shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    We have opioids and other drugs flowing into this country across our southern border at a horrible cost to our own citizens and we’re off doing who knows what 7,000 miles away.

    Where are the Kurds when you need them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by USFREEDOM911 View Post
    About sums it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Erdogan will go ‘into Syria’ just far enough to secure his own border. There are other ways to be tough on Russia besides hindering them in Syria. Assuming being ‘tough on Russia’ is one’s obsession. Syria is a Russian client state and anyone who thinks we should start a war over that shouldn’t be allowed to vote.
    yes. Like it or not da Russians alliance with Assad brings stability to Syria

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