Stretch (10-18-2019)
Humanity was treated to an important lecture on peace at a recent event for the NIR School of the Heart by none other than Ellen Degeneres BFF and world-renowned peace expert George W Bush.
“I don’t think the Iranians believe a peaceful Middle East is in their national interest,” said the former president according to The Washington Post’s Josh Rogin, whose brief Twitter thread on the subject appears to be the only record of Bush’s speech anywhere online.
For those who don’t speak fluent neoconservative, “isolationist” here means taking even one small step in any direction other than continued military expansionism into every square inch of planet Earth, and “We are becoming isolationist” here means “We have hundreds of military bases circling the globe, our annual military budget is steadily climbing toward the trillion-dollar mark, and we are engaged in countless undeclared wars and regime change interventions all around the world.”“An isolationist United States is destabilizing around the world,” Bush said during the speech in what according to Rogin was a shot at the sitting president. “We are becoming isolationist and that’s dangerous for the sake of peace.”
why Bush is choosing to present himself as a more peaceful president than Trump given that by this point in his first term Bush had launched not one but two full-scale ground invasion wars whose effects continue to ravage the Middle East to this very day, especially given the way both presidents appear to be in furious agreement on foreign policy matters like Iran. But here we are.
It would actually be great if George W Bush could shut the fuck up forever, ideally in a locked cell following a public war tribunal. Failing that, at the very least people should stop looking at him as a cuddly wuddly teddy bear with whom it’s fun to share a sporting arena suite or a piece of hard candy or to hang award medals on for his treatment of veterans.
This mass murdering monster has been growing more and more popular with Democrats lately just because he offers mild criticisms of Trump sometimes, as have war pigs like Bill Kristol and Max Boot and even John Bolton for the same reason, and it needs to stop. And in the name of a million dead Iraqis, please don’t start consulting this man on matters of peace.
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Stretch (10-18-2019)
So, Bush II pipes up, finally, after visiting Alpha Centauri for eight years of Obama.
And he speaks of peace lol. That’s literally funny. Just go away, George. And take Mittens with you.
Coup has started. First of many steps. Impeachment will follow ultimately~WB attorney Mark Zaid, January 2017
dukkha (10-18-2019), Stretch (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
Darth Omar (10-18-2019), Stretch (10-18-2019)
What's funny is that after years, probably a decade or more, the same people who endlessly defended the Iraq War and wouldn't accept its' disasterous consequences in the Middle East are now critizing President Bush for the Iraq War
Everyday it seems their selective memory keeps invalidating that which they once told us were their principles
Phantasmal (10-18-2019)
Darth Omar (10-18-2019), Stretch (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
being alone is better than being in an abusive relationship. political mgtow for the win.
Stretch (10-18-2019)
George Dumbya Bush was the beloved leader of your party for eight years. Eight years in which virtually every conservative on this forum poured their heart and soul into defending him, worshipping him, providing cover for him. My favorite thread of all time was a homoerotic love letter penned by a former poster and entitled "I Love George W. Bush!".
It is way, way too late for you and your party to attempt to put daylight between you and Dumbya - to hold him out as an example of what not to do. That is not possible since your party worshipped him for eight years, and I have heard hardly any conservative publicly state any kind of remorse for supporting Dumbya.
Your Orange Hog Trump also supported the invasion of Iraq. Even worse than that, Trumpf is on record suggesting to Sean Hannity we should have done it "the right way the first time", aka gone onto Baghdad in 1991. That was some extreme NeoCon belligerence for 1991, because almost nobody thought a full blown invasion and occupation of Iraq in 1991 was a good idea.
The disaster in the Middle East to this day, began - first and foremost - because the erstwhile leader of your party decided to launch an unnecessary and premeditated War of Aggression into the heart of the Arab world.
It does not pass the laugh test to belatedly attempt to place the crown of peace-loving hippy isolationist on the head of your party.
Phantasmal (10-18-2019)
dukkha (10-18-2019), Stretch (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
Blackwater Lunchbreak (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
Blackwater Lunchbreak (10-18-2019), dukkha (10-18-2019), Stretch (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
Darth Omar (10-18-2019), Sailor (10-18-2019), Truth Detector (10-18-2019)
How is Bush wrong about this? History has taught us well that US isolationism is dangerous to peace. We should have learned that after WWI; but we didn't. We should have learned that after WWII; but we didn't. We should have learned that after Korea; but we didn't. We should have learned that after Vietnam; but we didn't. We should have learned that after 9-11; but we apparently haven't.
The Democratic Party of the Jackass and the liberal left appear to be invested in repeating forever the mistakes of the past learning nothing from them. Now, it appears that libertarians and some RINO's are joining their ranks.
We can only withdraw from the world if we are okay with despots, dictators and tyrants doing whatever they want until it hits us.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
What's funny is that after years, probably a decade or more, the same people who voted FOR the war and then endlessly criticized the Iraq War while falsely claiming the disasterous consequences in the Middle East are now critizing President Trump for not going to War.
Everyday it seems their selective memory keeps invalidating that which they once told us were their principles.
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Darth Omar (10-18-2019)
This is a very poor analogy.
We are not the one's being abused in many cases. The abuse is being done to others by brutal dictators, thugs and tyrants. But you believe we should just sit back and watch.
When Saddam invaded Kuwait; we should have just stood idly by watching them pillage a peaceful member nation of the UN; correct? When we were attacked on 9-11; we should have stayed home and blamed ourselves? Correct?
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
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