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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    I do not want you banned and I don't want to be banned, I admit there is a chance I am wrong. I am feeling pretty confident so do you have some other terms for a bet you might enjoy?
    I am open to suggestions. I am supremely confident that Trump will not be impeached. You are whistling past the graveyard

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    Quote Originally Posted by Teflon Don View Post
    I am open to suggestions. I am supremely confident that Trump will not be impeached. You are whistling past the graveyard
    Okay, if there is a full house vote on impeachment before Trump's presidency is over, you get to pick my profile photo, if not I get to pick yours for two weeks. If Trump resigns all bets are off.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Okay, if there is a full house vote on impeachment before Trump's presidency is over, you get to pick my profile photo, if not I get to pick yours for two weeks. If Trump resigns all bets are off.
    We are getting closer

    1) impeachment vote by Thanksgiving
    2) profile pictures and name
    3) three months needs to have teeth

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuidProJoe View Post
    We are getting closer

    1) impeachment vote by Thanksgiving
    2) profile pictures and name
    3) three months needs to have teeth
    No, I doubt they will get it in by Thanksgiving. I’ll agree to two and three.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No, I doubt they will get it in by Thanksgiving. I’ll agree to two and three.
    Christmas

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Now do you think what Rump did was wrong?


    You spend weeks denying a QPQ, how do you feel now that they admit it?
    Truth: The Trump administration can admit to a thousand supposed left wing violations.....and this bat shit crazy congress does not have the power to remove him from office through impeachment, as its the Senate that conducts a REAL INVESTIGATION and LEGAL HEARING....not congress who is constitutionally limited to political posturing moves only.

    As Hillary endorsed, "If the impeachment provision in the Constitution of the United States will not reach the offenses charged here, then perhaps the 18th century Constitution should be abandoned to a 20th century paper shredder."

    Why did she endorse such an outrageous position? She knows the procedure going on in congress right now is nothing but hubris GUM FLAPPING....and holds only political posturing with no method of actually removing the POTUS who is protected from any overreach by a co-equal branch of government.

    How do WE THE PEOPLE know that SHITLESS and AA NANCY know this already? How many indictments have resulted for failure to appear based upon the power of their supposed SUBPONEAS?


    -0- Its nothing but another left wing propaganda dog and phony show.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    Truth: The Trump administration can admit to a thousand supposed left wing violations.....and this bat shit crazy congress does not have the power to remove him from office through impeachment, as its the Senate that conducts a REAL INVESTIGATION and LEGAL HEARING....not congress who is constitutionally limited to political posturing moves only.
    The Senate won’t investigate... only take the results of the House investigation and have a trial.
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuidProJoe View Post
    Christmas
    No, sorry you claimed they won’t vote, I say they will. It might be well after the new year. How about before Election Day 2020?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    The Senate won’t investigate... only take the results of the House investigation and have a trial.
    So you are declaring that the ASSUSED does not have the constitutional authority to defend themselves in a legal hearing.....no discovery, no subpoena power of their own, no investigative authority? Dumb ASS. And no.....your conclusion is just as bat shit crazy as Shitless and AA NANCY.....its takes more than a house investigation to authorize an impeachment hearing in the senate...it actually takes a formal on the record UP/DOWN vote by the congressional representative(s)….not a simple vote of any committee, especially when the judicial committee has not conducted the supposed legal investigation.

    This would be tossed out before the ink was dry.....why? Even the POTUS is protected via the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. No committee has the authority to deny DUE PROCESS in the form of the 4th, 5th, the 14th, amendments.

    Here is a list of constitutional violations that Shitless and AA NANACY are violating as we speak.....under the articles of DUE PROCESS as stated in the Constitution and following amendments.

    1. The right to a speedy and UNBIASED (a joke...right...err...left, Shitforbraines and Fancy are UNBIASED?) hearing/trial

    2. The right to be provided with notice of criminal charges (Yeah....Shitless sure provided notice to the other side that he had spoken with and was preparing CRIMAINL CHARGES with a supposed whistle blower...no?) OR....civil actions involved in legal charges being actionable

    3. The right to present REASON why such charges should not be taken

    4. The right to present evidence and call witnesses

    5. The right of discovery.....the right to know ahead of time the evidence held by those who are attempting to PROSECUTE those charges.

    6. The right to cross examine any hostile witness

    7. The right of representation via a qualified lawyer of choice

    8. THE REQUIREMENT that the court or OTHER TRIBUNAL (the wink, wink, special impeachment non impeachment hearing) prepare a written record of the existing evidence and prepared testimony of said evidence. Not hold a hearing to go fishing for evidence to charge someone of a crime....which is unconstitutional as hell.

    9. And...the requirement that the court or OTHER TRIBUNAL present a written record of existing facts to the accused.


    Yeah...…...legal as hell...……..NOT!

    The SCOTUS would never allow such a travesty to remove a duly elected POTUS...especially a SCOTUS loaded with constitutional originalists.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ralph View Post
    So you are declaring that the ASSUSED does not have the constitutional authority to defend themselves in a legal hearing.....no discovery, no subpoena power of their own, no investigative authority? Dumb ASS. And no.....your conclusion is just as bat shit crazy as Shitless and AA NANCY.....its takes more than a house investigation to authorize an impeachment hearing in the senate...it actually takes a formal on the record UP/DOWN vote by the congressional representative(s)….not a simple vote of any committee, especially when the judicial committee has not conducted the supposed legal investigation.

    This would be tossed out before the ink was dry.....why? Even the POTUS is protected via the Bill of Rights and the US Constitution. No committee has the authority to deny DUE PROCESS in the form of the 4th, 5th, the 14th, amendments.

    Here is a list of constitutional violations that Shitless and AA NANACY are violating as we speak.....under the articles of DUE PROCESS as stated in the Constitution and following amendments.

    1. The right to a speedy and UNBIASED (a joke...right...err...left, Shitforbraines and Fancy are UNBIASED?) hearing/trial

    2. The right to be provided with notice of criminal charges (Yeah....Shitless sure provided notice to the other side that he spoken with and was preparing CRIMAINL CHARGES with a supposed whistle blower...no?) OR....civil actions involved in legal charges being actionable

    3. The right to present REASON why such charges should not be taken

    4. The right to present evidence and call witnesses

    5. The right of discovery.....the right to know ahead of time the evidence held by those who are attempting to PROSECUTE those charges.

    6. The right to cross examine any hostile witness

    7. The right of representation via a qualified lawyer of choice

    8. THE REQUIREMENT that the court or OTHER TRIBUNAL (the wink, wink, special impeachment non impeachment hearing) prepare a written record of the existing evidence and prepared testimony of said evidence. Not hold a hearing to go fishing for evidence to charge someone of a crime....which is unconstitutional as hell.

    9. And...the requirement that the court or OTHER TRIBUNAL present a written record of existing facts to the accused.


    Yeah...…...legal as hell...……..NOT!
    Its not a legal hearing, but the Republicans will have the right to cross-examine witnesses and subpoena witnesses, The president always as every right to investigate anything he wants to investigate in any legal way he chooses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    No, sorry you claimed they won’t vote, I say they will. It might be well after the new year. How about before Election Day 2020?
    Won’t last that long.

    Before Iowa caucus.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its not a legal hearing, but the Republicans will have the right to cross-examine witnesses and subpoena witnesses, The president always as every right to investigate anything he wants to investigate in any legal way he chooses.
    Not according to you. You are trying to impeach him for it

    Apparently you can commit crimes and just run for President and get off the hook if you are a democrat

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jarod View Post
    Its not a legal hearing, but the Republicans will have the right to cross-examine witnesses and subpoena witnesses, The president always as every right to investigate anything he wants to investigate in any legal way he chooses.
    Exactly: Finally an admission of stupidity....its not a legal hearing until it is prosecuted by THE SENATE, thus its all bluster, as you have about as much chance of removing this POTUS as you do of throwing a snowball through hell. But...even through the impeachment proceedings are not a Trial....they are considered a TRIBUNAL....a political tribunal....as an impeachment must by constitutional decree involve a judicial authority. That's the reason their piece of shit papers are not legal SUBPONEAS. They were not issued through the judicial authority of congress. Who ever heard of a hidden COVERT (intel committee) impeachment investigation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by QuidProJoe View Post
    Won’t last that long.

    Before Iowa caucus.
    When is that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by QuidProJoe View Post
    Not according to you. You are trying to impeach him for it

    Apparently you can commit crimes and just run for President and get off the hook if you are a democrat
    It is not a legal hearing, it is a constitutional hearing. It will not take place in a courtroom and the Rules of Evidence will not necessarily apply. The process in the Senate is what ever the Senators decide it is.
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