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    Default Let's talk about transparency and facts

    Trump was told he had to comply with Mueller. He allowed the investigation to conclude. He provided all the information requested. Trump released the entire report less certain redacted portions that were still under grand jury investigations.

    The report substantiated that the Russian collusion story was a HOAX.

    Six months later, we are told that some ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER with SECOND hand ANONYMOUS sources had evidence of a threat to national security based on a congratulatory phone call between Trump and the newly elected Ukrainian President.

    Trump then releases the unredacted telephone transcript that proves the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER did not have first hand knowledge and lied about the contents.

    What have we gotten in return from the Party of the Jackass?

    A lie filled version of the call from Andy Schiff.

    Closed door hearings where the testimony is selectively leaked to the PHONY media for public consumption while REFUSING to release the actual transcript of the hearing.

    A refusal to have the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER testify.

    A refusal to unmask the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER.

    A refusal to follow precedent for impeachment inquiries.

    It is obvious who is honest and transparent. The Party of the Jackass are the one's with something to hide as they once again engage in a PHONY HOAX using a PHONY narrative that has already been exposed as lie filled by the actual transcripts.

    One can only wonder how dumb the Democratic Party of the Jackass can get??
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Your title would be a first.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Trump was told he had to comply with Mueller. He allowed the investigation to conclude. He provided all the information requested. Trump released the entire report less certain redacted portions that were still under grand jury investigations.

    The report substantiated that the Russian collusion story was a HOAX.

    Six months later, we are told that some ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER with SECOND hand ANONYMOUS sources had evidence of a threat to national security based on a congratulatory phone call between Trump and the newly elected Ukrainian President.

    Trump then releases the unredacted telephone transcript that proves the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER did not have first hand knowledge and lied about the contents.

    What have we gotten in return from the Party of the Jackass?

    A lie filled version of the call from Andy Schiff.

    Closed door hearings where the testimony is selectively leaked to the PHONY media for public consumption while REFUSING to release the actual transcript of the hearing.

    A refusal to have the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER testify.

    A refusal to unmask the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER.

    A refusal to follow precedent for impeachment inquiries.

    It is obvious who is honest and transparent. The Party of the Jackass are the one's with something to hide as they once again engage in a PHONY HOAX using a PHONY narrative that has already been exposed as lie filled by the actual transcripts.

    One can only wonder how dumb the Democratic Party of the Jackass can get??
    Still treading water

    Mueller and current events have no relation with each other, so you can drop that deflection

    Trump's transcript validated just about everything the whistle blower said, and considering that the White House had the complaint before anyone else did, Trump most likely only released the transcript knowing what was to follow, to get out ahead, it backfired on him, don't you recall changing rationalizations the White House went thru attempting to "explain" do me "a favor"

    Nothing in the Constitution that says impeachment inquires have to start with a full House vote, in fact, they haven't in the majority of all impeachment actions in American History

    And to educate you of the facts once again, those "closed door hearings" can be attended by all the relevant GOP Committee members who are free to ask questions and collect information just the same as anyone else present, must be Sean left that part out

    "truthie" knows all this, he has regurgitated the same crap over and over again, he just can't accept the facts, not our fault his icons only provided half the truth

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jade Dragon View Post
    Your title would be a first.
    ^^Thread trolling dimwit.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Still treading water
    Wrong; that would be the liars in the Democratic Party of the Jackass.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Mueller and current events have no relation with each other, so you can drop that deflection
    They are identical in that they both are hoaxes started on a false narrative when the FACTS are right in front of our faces.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Trump's transcript validated just about everything the whistle blower said, and considering that the White House had the complaint before anyone else did, Trump most likely only released the transcript knowing what was to follow, to get out ahead, it backfired on him, don't you recall changing rationalizations the White House went thru attempting to "explain" do me "a favor"
    That is a lie. The transcript invalidated everything the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER claimed. He wasn't even in the room. He used second hand information from.....wait for it.....ANONYMOUS individuals who were also not in the room.

    The media LIED about the conversation claiming in many instances that Joe Biden's name was mentioned at least eight times.

    The FACT is, this is a HOAX invented by Schiff and the Party of the Jackass that blew up in their smug faces when Trump, transparently, released the contents of the phone call.

    The HOAX was also destroyed when the President of Ukraine stated he felt under no duress or pressure by Trump to do anything.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Nothing in the Constitution that says impeachment inquires have to start with a full House vote, in fact, they haven't in the majority of all impeachment actions in American History
    It is called House rules and precedent. Everything in the Constitution demands that the House have a floor vote to impeach a sitting President. It is the most serious issue Government has when a political party in the minority attempts to usurp the will of the American voters.

    This clown show is an embarrassment to the nation, our institutions and to the idiots who engage in such Fascistic, moronic, third world tactics.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And to educate you of the facts once again, those "closed door hearings" can be attended by all the relevant GOP Committee members who are free to ask questions and collect information just the same as anyone else present, must be Sean left that part out
    And to educate you; those hearings are intended to avoid transparency and prevent the American people from seeing what a clown show this really is. It is a despicable Fascistic tactic intended to avoid public scrutiny while SELECTIVELY leaking only that portion of the testimony that might give the appearance of impropriety.

    No you little Nazi; we don't conduct something as serious as the impeachment of a duly elected President behind closed doors and without the Presidents attorneys ability to know the identity of his accusers and cross examine them.

    That's for lawless third world shit holes.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    "truthie" knows all this,
    Arsecheese knows nothing and proves it every time he posts his bullshit on this forum. Ironic how you are NEVER right about anything and aren't embarrassed by it.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    he has regurgitated the same crap over and over again,
    Wrong Arsecheese, I have repeated the FACTS over and over again. But FACTS seem to bounce right off dishonest hacks like you who respond with more lying, crying and flailing.

    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    he just can't accept the facts, not our fault his icons only provided half the truth
    You don't deal in facts Arsecheese. You deal in innuendo, lies and crying.

    Here's the thread where I expose the lies made by the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER; educate yourself you whiny Nazi punk:
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-The-complaint
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Mueller showed 10 incidents of Trump's obstruction and said he did not have the power to indict a sitting president. He suggested that the House investigate and charge. That is what is happening. So the Mueller report was vital to restoring American democracy.
    Those testifying have been telling what Trump does not want out. The Reds have equal time in the questioning. They are not getting cheated.
    Schiff said there will be public testimony too. Reds will not like that. The most secret administration in history will see the sunlight and Trump will not like it. His minions were sworn to secrecy by Trump but they are talking anyway. Doing the right thing for the country out motivated the government job and moderate prestige it includes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Mueller showed 10 incidents of Trump's obstruction

    omg give Mueller a rest, he's been proven useless, an embarrassment to your party


    Schiff said there will be public testimony too.
    you're just not able to grasp reality are you

    Reds will not like that. The most secret administration in history will see the sunlight and Trump will not like it. His minions were sworn to secrecy by Trump but they are talking anyway. Doing the right thing for the country out motivated the government job and moderate .
    so now you have inside info on the hearings do you?

    do you notice people around you holding their mouth trying not to laugh out loud when you talk?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Trump was told he had to comply with Mueller. He allowed the investigation to conclude. He provided all the information requested. Trump released the entire report less certain redacted portions that were still under grand jury investigations.

    The report substantiated that the Russian collusion story was a HOAX.

    Six months later, we are told that some ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER with SECOND hand ANONYMOUS sources had evidence of a threat to national security based on a congratulatory phone call between Trump and the newly elected Ukrainian President.

    Trump then releases the unredacted telephone transcript that proves the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER did not have first hand knowledge and lied about the contents.

    What have we gotten in return from the Party of the Jackass?

    A lie filled version of the call from Andy Schiff.

    Closed door hearings where the testimony is selectively leaked to the PHONY media for public consumption while REFUSING to release the actual transcript of the hearing.

    A refusal to have the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER testify.

    A refusal to unmask the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER.

    A refusal to follow precedent for impeachment inquiries.

    It is obvious who is honest and transparent. The Party of the Jackass are the one's with something to hide as they once again engage in a PHONY HOAX using a PHONY narrative that has already been exposed as lie filled by the actual transcripts.

    One can only wonder how dumb the Democratic Party of the Jackass can get??
    I read 3 sentences in, and you were already lying, so I didn't read the rest?

    NO one wants to talk with a liar!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    Wrong; that would be the liars in the Democratic Party of the Jackass.



    They are identical in that they both are hoaxes started on a false narrative when the FACTS are right in front of our faces.



    That is a lie. The transcript invalidated everything the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER claimed. He wasn't even in the room. He used second hand information from.....wait for it.....ANONYMOUS individuals who were also not in the room.

    The media LIED about the conversation claiming in many instances that Joe Biden's name was mentioned at least eight times.

    The FACT is, this is a HOAX invented by Schiff and the Party of the Jackass that blew up in their smug faces when Trump, transparently, released the contents of the phone call.

    The HOAX was also destroyed when the President of Ukraine stated he felt under no duress or pressure by Trump to do anything.



    It is called House rules and precedent. Everything in the Constitution demands that the House have a floor vote to impeach a sitting President. It is the most serious issue Government has when a political party in the minority attempts to usurp the will of the American voters.

    This clown show is an embarrassment to the nation, our institutions and to the idiots who engage in such Fascistic, moronic, third world tactics.



    And to educate you; those hearings are intended to avoid transparency and prevent the American people from seeing what a clown show this really is. It is a despicable Fascistic tactic intended to avoid public scrutiny while SELECTIVELY leaking only that portion of the testimony that might give the appearance of impropriety.

    No you little Nazi; we don't conduct something as serious as the impeachment of a duly elected President behind closed doors and without the Presidents attorneys ability to know the identity of his accusers and cross examine them.

    That's for lawless third world shit holes.



    Arsecheese knows nothing and proves it every time he posts his bullshit on this forum. Ironic how you are NEVER right about anything and aren't embarrassed by it.



    Wrong Arsecheese, I have repeated the FACTS over and over again. But FACTS seem to bounce right off dishonest hacks like you who respond with more lying, crying and flailing.



    You don't deal in facts Arsecheese. You deal in innuendo, lies and crying.

    Here's the thread where I expose the lies made by the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER; educate yourself you whiny Nazi punk:
    https://www.justplainpolitics.com/sh...-The-complaint
    Other than the usual personal crapola, plus the capitalized echo of "Hoax," none of that says a damn thing, just the same refurgiatated talk radio rhetoric "truthie" employs often to masquerade as content

    There are a few inaccurate generalizations that do need correction, not like "truthie" is going to accept the facts, but the only vote per the Constitution that is required in an impeachment is a vote on the actually articles of impeachment that the inquiry introduces to the House, that's it, nothing else.

    And as far as precedent, there is no established precedent, Andrew Johnson didn't even have an impeachment inquiry, and there has been other Judicial plus Gov't individuals who were impeached without votes on inquires

    Lastly, contrary to the image the right wing media and Trump is attempting to sell, none of this is being done in secrecy, the GOP members, to include Nunes and Ratcliffe, FOX favorites, can be sitting in on all the testimonies and ask questions even leak information if they want, plus, they did the exact same thing when the held the majority

    Done with "truthie," offers little

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    I read 3 sentences in, and you were already lying, so I didn't read the rest?

    NO one wants to talk with a liar!
    Poor baby ..... Can’t handle the truth .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Mueller showed 10 incidents of Trump's obstruction and said he did not have the power to indict a sitting president.
    NO he didn't. You can't find this claim in the report. You're a liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    He suggested that the House investigate and charge. That is what is happening.
    NO he didn't. You can't find this claim in the report. You're a liar.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    So the Mueller report was vital to restoring American democracy.
    No, he wasn't. He was vital exposing what a bunch of liars the PHONY media and the Democratic Party of the Jackass are.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Those testifying have been telling what Trump does not want out. The Reds have equal time in the questioning. They are not getting cheated.
    No, they aren't. They have been kept behind closed doors and the liars in the Party of the Jackass are refusing to release the full transcripts of their testimony and leaking only selected pieces like Fascistic third world shit hole thugs.

    Trump is the only one being transparent here.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Schiff said there will be public testimony too.
    Why have any of these behind closed doors? Why hide the identity of the ANONYMOUS FAKE WHISTLE BLOWER? What is Schiff trying to hide here?

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Reds will not like that.
    They have been demanding it. Schiff has been hiding it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The most secret administration in history will see the sunlight and Trump will not like it. His minions were sworn to secrecy by Trump but they are talking anyway. Doing the right thing for the country out motivated the government job and moderate prestige it includes.
    Trump has been the most transparent Presidents this nation has ever known. You lack the intelligence it would take to comprehend the obvious and to think for yourself. That's why you parrot the incredibly stupid narratives you have been fed like a gullible dupe from CNN.
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Getin the ring View Post
    omg give Mueller a rest, he's been proven useless, an embarrassment to your party

    you're just not able to grasp reality are you

    so now you have inside info on the hearings do you?

    do you notice people around you holding their mouth trying not to laugh out loud when you talk?
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Adolf_Twitler View Post
    I read 3 sentences in, and you were already lying, so I didn't read the rest?

    NO one wants to talk with a liar!
    What part was the lie?
    Page 173 V I: Ultimately, the investigation did not establish that the Campaign coordinated or conspired with the Russian government in its election-interference activities.


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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Other than the usual personal crapola, .................................................. ...

    Ignorant, boorish, repetitive yammering ignored.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    What part was the lie?
    Your 3rd sentence- You said- The Mueller report did not prove any wrong doing by the president.

    That's a lie!

    It's all water under the bridge now anyway.

    Mitch McConnell told his Republican Senators that the House Democrats have advised him they were trying to get er' done by Thanksgiving!

    So Mitch advised his Senators that he wants his senators to be done with the Impeachment hearings by Christmas.

    Will Mitch take Donnie out of office?

    Yes, I think he will IF- IF 60% of the Vocal Majority and the Public Outcry is demanding DOnald Trump be removed from office.

    It's at 52% right now! By Thanksgiving it'll be all the way up to 60%!

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