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    Default Giuliani is definitely prison bound - counterintelligence investigation now underway

    (CNN)For months, investigators looking into Rudy Giuliani's business dealings in Ukraine have dug into everything from possible financial entanglements with alleged corrupt Ukrainian figures to counterintelligence concerns raised by some of those business ties, according to people briefed on the matter.

    The counterintelligence part of the investigation indicates that FBI and criminal prosecutors in Manhattan are looking at a broader set of issues related to Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, than has been previously reported.

    Kenneth McCallion, a New York attorney, says that investigators first approached him earlier this year to ask about Giuliani's ties to Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Giuliani associates indicted last week on campaign-finance related charges.

    McCallion says FBI counterintelligence agents in February or March asked questions about some of Giuliani's Ukrainian business dealings.


    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/polit...utm_term=image


    tick tick tick tick.....

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    Default Another man is arrested in probe of Giuliani associates

    go Rudy go!!


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    NEW YORK — A Florida man wanted in a campaign finance case involving associates of Rudy Giuliani is in federal custody after flying Wednesday to Kennedy Airport in New York City to turn himself in, federal authorities said.

    David Correia, 44, was named in an indictment with two Giuliani associates and another man arrested last week on charges they made illegal contributions to politicians and a political action committee supporting President Donald Trump. Giuliani, a former New York City mayor, is Trump's personal lawyer.

    All the other defendants in the case were already in custody.

    Prosecutors said Correia, who owns a home with his wife in West Palm Beach, was part of efforts by co-defendants Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman to leverage outsized political donations to Republican candidates and committees as part of an effort to advance their business interests.



    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/polit...jnz?li=BBnbcA1

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    Trump, Russia, Ukraine, oligarchs, Manafort is all going to fit together in a comprehensive picture at some point. We are still only seeing PARTS. And I wonder how many were late comers like Guiliani and Mulvaney who may have just jumped in on the politics OR they in it now for the CORRUPTION for PROFIT. If they want Rudy's bank records its about money. What about Pompeo?

    I still want the OLD records. Trump/Russia/Deutschebank. Where and when did that start?
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    Sounds like a pretty big stinkeroo!

    No wonder Rudy lawyered-up.
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    SDNY overreach as usual.. Why in the hell would a CFR violation trigger a counterintelligence investigation?
    The answer is obvious
    So they can spy and get into the defendents contacts, and then get into Gulliani's

    Usual Deep State Creeps @ work

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    Hello anatta,

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    SDNY overreach as usual.. Why in the hell would a CFR violation trigger a counterintelligence investigation?
    Investigators piece things together. Obviously they have more than you know about.

    Quote Originally Posted by anatta View Post
    The answer is obvious
    So they can spy and get into the defendents contacts, and then get into Gulliani's

    Usual Deep State Creeps @ work
    You're only fooling yourself with that deep state nonsense. If such an organization existed why on Earth would it EVER have allowed Trump to be elected in the first place?
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anatta,



    Investigators piece things together. Obviously they have more than you know about.



    You're only fooling yourself with that deep state nonsense. If such an organization existed why on Earth would it EVER have allowed Trump to be elected in the first place?
    you have no clue what you are talking about. they TRIED to stop Trump with the FBI investigation
    ( which Comey lied to Trump about that he wasn't a target- he was)

    But no one can "allow" anything abut election results

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    Keep us posted.

    Lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello anatta,



    Investigators piece things together. Obviously they have more than you know about.



    You're only fooling yourself with that deep state nonsense. If such an organization existed why on Earth would it EVER have allowed Trump to be elected in the first place?
    That is a common sense question that will either be ignored or will get a bat crap crazy conspiracy driven answer.
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    https://apnews.com/bd7b2b04b101440e9a5559b9501e24b4
    “I was first approached by these individuals for a meeting about the strategic need for Ukraine to become energy independent,” Sessions said, according to a written statement. “There was no request in that meeting and I took no action.”
    more tax payer largess -somehow we got the idea Ukraine should not be importing nat gas from Russia, and somehow $3 billion (Uraine Energy Independence Initiative) was going to do it.
    Ukraine makes a lot of money from nat gas "transit fees" - it was a stupid idea.
    it was another stupid Spook idea backed by Russiaphobic Congress critters
    Sessions added that “several congressional colleagues” were the source of the allegations in his letter claiming that Yovanovitch had disparaged Trump, not Parnas and Fruman.
    so what SDNY is trying to do is take the CFR vioations and make them about Trump/Gulliani /whomever the impetus for that Amb. removal.
    The are twisting the illegal contributions as the source for a quid pro quo.

    SDNY is the usual out of control prosecutors like the tax thing etc.
    All they care about is leveraging anything they can -when the truth is the Amb discreted herself as well by using State Dept search terms to spy on TrumpCo.

    JW INVESTIGATES IF OUSTED UKRAINE AMBASSADOR ORDERED STATE DEPT. TO MONITOR JOURNALISTS, TRUMP ALLIES
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    the inmates at Rikers want a sit down with Rudy, BAD

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    That is a common sense question that will either be ignored or will get a bat crap crazy conspiracy driven answer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    (CNN)For months, investigators looking into Rudy Giuliani's business dealings in Ukraine have dug into everything from possible financial entanglements with alleged corrupt Ukrainian figures to counterintelligence concerns raised by some of those business ties, according to people briefed on the matter.

    The counterintelligence part of the investigation indicates that FBI and criminal prosecutors in Manhattan are looking at a broader set of issues related to Giuliani, President Donald Trump's personal attorney, than has been previously reported.

    Kenneth McCallion, a New York attorney, says that investigators first approached him earlier this year to ask about Giuliani's ties to Lev Parnas and Igor Fruman, two Giuliani associates indicted last week on campaign-finance related charges.

    McCallion says FBI counterintelligence agents in February or March asked questions about some of Giuliani's Ukrainian business dealings.


    Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/16/polit...utm_term=image


    tick tick tick tick.....
    Do you really believe they will put "America's Mayor" in prison?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TTQ64 View Post
    Do you really believe they will put "America's Mayor" in prison?
    yes, they will put America's mayor in an American prison, unavoidable at this time

    can't figure out why Rudy quit blabbering on Fox Fake News, sign of the times?

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    yes, they will put America's mayor in an American prison, unavoidable at this time

    can't figure out why Rudy quit blabbering on Fox Fake News, sign of the times?
    No no no.....not an American mayor......The American Mayor...….Rudy.

    Sure they will put Kilpatrick or Blagoivich…...but Rudy? a Republican?

    I hope your right.

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