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    Quote Originally Posted by Flash View Post
    Ice and Border Patrol said they did and their website carries the numbers.

    I guess they could be like Trump claiming he is building a wall.

    I guess we can't believe a word our presidents say.
    Yes trump has lied too. He promised to kick out the illegals and has done nothing. Obama lied us into obamacare and Bush lied us into the iraq invasion whereupon he murdered a million civilians. The media are a pack of liars too. They lied about the mueller report and jussie and the covington kids and just a few days ago ABC was caught red-handed trying to lie us into another middle east war..
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    No - that is NOT a federal law. Only congress can write laws. The constitution says "All legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states".

    Courts have no authority to order states to enroll illegals. THINK
    Think. They threw out attempts to block these folks from becoming students. Those laws that tried to do that were negated. Hence the reality we currently live in. I know you dislike those pesky ideas like reality, but it is what is.
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    Report says teacher shortage of 307,000. I say kick out the illegal alien students.
    Why not get rid of ALL students ? Huge savings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Think. They threw out attempts to block these folks from becoming students. Those laws that tried to do that were negated. Hence the reality we currently live in. I know you dislike those pesky ideas like reality, but it is what is.

    By "they" you mean the supreme court repealed the laws. But the constitution says courts are not allowed to repeal laws. "ALL legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states."

    Only liberals want UNELECTED judges acting as legislators.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    By "they" you mean the supreme court repealed the laws. But the constitution says courts are not allowed to repeal laws. "ALL legislative powers herein granted shall be vested in a congress of the united states."

    Only liberals want UNELECTED judges acting as legislators.
    They can however, decide on whether the law is constitutional. Since legislators don't seem to be any good at that, it is a good thing. The founders created this court for a purpose and it wasn't to sit there and look good, it was to be a check and balance to the other equal branches. Pretending they have no power at all it just pretence. This check keeps the leftists from forcing some disgusting laws on the right, and keeps the religious from forcing folks to follow the Biblical canon.

    And pretending that what you are saying actually translates into what happens in reality doesn't make it true. It simply ignores reality. Basically, while we may or may not like the decisions they make, their decisions do effect our reality. It makes it so that no matter how much you dislike it, the reality is those kids get to go to school with your kids, even if they are brown and/or born somewhere else where brown people live and people speak in languages that aren't 'Merican.

    Now we can talk about how the decision was good or bad, but we can't ignore the reality. Which is how I stated it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    They can however, decide on whether the law is constitutional. .
    So show us where the constitution says the SC shall have power to decide if a law is constitutional. I can point to the tenth amendment which says the states or the people have that power.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    So show us where the constitution says the SC shall have power to decide if a law is constitutional. I can point to the tenth amendment which says the states or the people have that power.
    Again, ignoring reality for what you believe doesn't change reality. Pretending that judicial review isn't a reality we live with is simply lying to yourself and hoping real hard. People who argue that jury nullification is a real thing should not also argue that the Judicial Branch which is given power over all cases in law and equity arising under the constitution including the laws of the United States and treaties under their authority (section 2 of article 3) could not negate a law due to it being unconstitutional when they have the power to rule on laws and treaties would be quite absurd really. You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to say that the founding fathers just made a mistake in this case by giving the SCOTUS power to rule on all cases (including arguments that the law itself is unconstitutional/constitutional as those would be included in the subset of "all cases") concerning laws and treaties passed by the legislative branch and to tell the rest of the folks that the Constitution is a binding document at the same time.

    Your argument is essentially, the Founding Fathers couldn't possibly have meant ALL cases when they said ALL cases... because I don't like what they rule sometimes on these types of cases! It's reactionary, and deliberately ignorant, not conservative. They certainly didn't invest the Judiciary with no check on the powers of the other two branches, it is literally why we have 3 branches.

    "The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made, or which shall be made, under their Authority;"
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    Again, ignoring reality for what you believe doesn't change reality. Pretending that judicial review isn't a reality we live with is simply lying to yourself and hoping real hard. People who argue that jury nullification is a real thing should not also argue that the Judicial Branch which is given power over all cases in law and equity arising under the constitution including the laws of the United States and treaties under their authority (section 2 of article 3) could not negate a law due to it being unconstitutional when they have the power to rule on laws and treaties would be quite absurd really. You don't get to have it both ways. You don't get to say that the founding fathers just made a mistake in this case by giving the SCOTUS power to rule on all cases (including arguments that the law itself is unconstitutional/constitutional as those would be included in the subset of "all cases") concerning laws and treaties passed by the legislative branch and to tell the rest of the folks that the Constitution is a binding document at the same time.

    Your argument is essentially, the Founding Fathers couldn't possibly have meant ALL cases when they said ALL cases... because I don't like what they rule sometimes on these types of cases! It's reactionary, and deliberately ignorant, not conservative. They certainly didn't invest the Judiciary with no check on the powers of the other two branches, it is literally why we have 3 branches.
    Again we have caught you in a lie. Article 3 section 2 says (The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made.

    The problem is repealing laws is NOT a judicial power. It's a legislative power. THINK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Again we have caught you in a lie. Article 3 section 2 says (The judicial Power shall extend to all Cases, in Law and Equity, arising under this Constitution, the Laws of the United States, and Treaties made.

    The problem is repealing laws is NOT a judicial power. It's a legislative power. THINK
    I do think. Again. Reality doesn't mesh with what you want so you just repeat THINK in big letters which doesn't change the reality. It doesn't make it so the founding fathers created a powerless branch of government because racist TDAK doesn't like it when they exercise their check on the power of the legislature and the executive. However, they did create a branch with co-equal powers.... And they gave that branch power to make rulings on all cases (all of them, repeating that, because it includes cases where people claim that the law is unconstitutional).... regarding the laws of this land, also treaties, etc.

    This isn't tough even for folks who prove they are stupid, because they are white racists, to understand.

    This power protected your right to keep and bear arms, for instance... you liked it then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    I do think. Again. Reality doesn't mesh with what you want so you just repeat THINK in big letters which doesn't change the reality. It doesn't make it so the founding fathers created a powerless branch of government because racist TDAK doesn't like it when they exercise their check on the power of the legislature and the executive. However, they did create a branch with co-equal powers.... And they gave that branch power to make rulings on all cases (all of them, repeating that, because it includes cases where people claim that the law is unconstitutional).... regarding the laws of this land, also treaties, etc.
    You didn't address the point i raised. The constitution says the "judicial power" shall extend to all cases but it doesn't say what the judicial power is. You say it includes the power to repeal laws based on alleged unconstitutionality but nowhere does the constitution say that. Most people would say repealing laws is a legislative power. THINK
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    You didn't address the point i raised. The constitution says the "judicial power" shall extend to all cases but it doesn't say what the judicial power is. You say it includes the power to repeal laws based on alleged unconstitutionality but nowhere does the constitution say that. Most people would say repealing laws is a legislative power. THINK
    It does. You haven't addressed the actual reason for checks and balances, why they exist and what makes you imagine that the founders just decided there would be no check on legislative powers even though they made it clear the judiciary powers extend to all cases. What you deliberately ignore is the understanding of what a judiciary does, which the founders fully understood. They then gave them power over all cases (all of them, including the ones you pretend are not part of the subset of "all"), to make those decisions as a check against the legislative. They also made one court to stand above the others.

    Even without all that. Just looking at reality will tell you that you can say something until you can paint a fart green, but it doesn't make it part of what actually happens. Saying THINK doesn't mean you have ever thought.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    Liberals have ruined our public schools by letting illegal aliens attend schools and by mandating affirmative action grading to help blacks.
    Wow, they get a '2FER' with that one.
    WK1 3/28-/4 _Cases 301k--Dead 18.1k Lethality 2.72%
    WK2 4/5-/13 _Cases 555k--Dead 22.1K Lethality 3.9%
    WK3 4/20-/21 Cases 774k -Dead 37.2K Lethality 4.8%
    WK4 4/22-/29 Cases 1M --Dead 58.8K Lethality 5.9%
    WK5 5/1-/8__ Cases 1.3M -Dead 75.7K Lethality 6.1%
    WK6 5/9-16__Cases 1.4M --Dead 85.8K Lethality 6.1%
    WK7 5/17-24_Cases 1.7M - Dead 97.6K Lethality 5.9%
    WK8 5/28 Cases 1.7M - DEAD 101.2K - Same

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    Quote Originally Posted by Centerleftfl View Post
    Wow, they get a '2FER' with that one.
    Yet you can't refute that Liberals have ruined the public schools by doing that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Damocles View Post
    It does. You haven't addressed the actual reason for checks and balances, why they exist and what makes you imagine that the founders just decided there would be no check on legislative powers
    There is a check on legislative powers - ELECTIONS!!! Now what is the check on judicial powers? Those clowns are APPOINTED FOR LIFE.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Text Drivers are Killers View Post
    There is a check on legislative powers - ELECTIONS!!! Now what is the check on judicial powers? Those clowns are APPOINTED FOR LIFE.
    If that is what the founders meant for checks and balances then we'd elect a king that held the powers of all three. We don't because they understood that the power must be separated, and that each had the power to check and balance the others to ensure the longest lasting republic.

    Ignoring the purpose of the Constitution is for liberals, ignoring the meaning is for the stupid. You're not "better than that" because you are clearly a stupid racist, but you don't have both of those negative idiotic things going against you, just the idiotic racism one...
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