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    Default Pelosi refuses to pressure her rank-and-file to hold impeachment vote

    I don't think she even has the votes, I do know the swing district Dems are terrified of going on record authorizing Impeachment

    What a bunch of slime buckets!
    they hold secret hearings with selective leaks the very same hour of the hearings.

    And the hearings are called "depositions" which makes it against House rules to disclose.

    The worthless chicken Republicans for the most part stay silent while attending this pig circus.
    They should walk out en mass, but they are too squeamish

    This isn't an impeachment hearing/inquiry, it's a partisan hit job
    https://www.politico.com/news/2019/1...nt-vote-047136

    Pelosi and other top Democrats couldn't come to an agreement among themselves during internal discussions on Tuesday over whether to move forward with the vote, which would mark an escalation of their impeachment battle with Trump.

    Vulnerable House Democrats from swing districts were also largely opposed, with some lawmakers fearing that the American public would confuse a vote authorizing an impeachment inquiry as actually impeaching Trump.

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    Inside the leadership, Hoyer and House Majority Whip Jim Clyburn (D-S.C.). were opposed to the vote, as were Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler (D-N.Y.) and Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.), two key players in the impeachment drama, said several Democratic aides.

    Pelosi privately told other Democrats she was "agnostic" on the issue, said a Democratic aide.

    During Tuesday's meeting, Pelosi told her colleagues that she "only has license this caucus gives me," meaning she wouldn't pressure her rank-and-file to hold the vote.

    House Democratic leaders also quietly reached out to the most vulnerable members of their caucus to gauge whether they would support a formal vote to authorize an impeachment inquiry against Trump, according to multiple Democratic aides.

    The response was "pretty strongly no," said an aide close to the issue. The idea has met with anxiety among some of the battleground Democrats, who fear it
    could distract from the rest of their agenda, according to multiple aides.

    Several “Frontliners” in key districts raised concerns as well, including freshman Reps. Anthony Brindisi (D-N.Y.), Abigail Spanberger (D-Va.), Chrissy Houlahan (D-Pa.) and Elissa Slotkin (D-Mich.).

    Brindisi pointed out that there's no constitutional requirement for such a vote, while pointing out that he hadn't backed an impeachment inquiry publicly yet. Just six other Democrats have yet to endorse the inquiry.

    "You said it perfectly," Pelosi responded.

    Houlahan asked if Democrats "were being fair" to Republicans, while Spanberger urged members to talk about anything other than impeachment while they're on TV.

    Holding an impeachment inquiry vote would undermine a key Republican talking point — that Democrats’ inquiry isn’t valid because they haven’t held a floor vote, as in past presidential impeachment proceedings. It could also squeeze vulnerable Republicans by forcing them to go on the record. Many Republicans, so far, have attempted to stay away from the burgeoning scandal consuming the White House.

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    And it could open Democrats up to another front of GOP criticism, as Republicans demand more power in the investigation, including the ability to issue subpoenas and call their own witnesses.

    House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and other top House Republicans have complained repeatedly that Pelosi has violated past precedent by refusing so far to hold a full House vote authorizing the inquiry.

    “Unfortunately, you have given no clear indication as to how your impeachment inquiry will proceed — including whether key historical precedents or basic standards of due process will be observed,”
    In addition, the swiftness and recklessness with which you have proceeded has already resulted in committee chairs attempting to limit minority participation in scheduled interviews, calling into question the integrity of such an inquiry.”
    White House Counsel Pat Cipollone also vowed the administration wouldn’t cooperate with Democrats’ probe, saying the process was “illegitimate” and “constitutionally invalid” in the absence of an inquiry vote.

    “In the history of our nation, the House of Representatives has never attempted to launch an impeachment inquiry against the president without a majority of the House taking political accountability for that decision by voting to authorize such a dramatic constitutional step,” Cipollone wrote to Pelosi.
    Some Democrats have supported calls for a vote on the floor, hoping it could bolster their case in court as well as silencing their GOP critics. But others have argued that it is not necessary, dismissing Republican complaints that they've been cut out of the process.

    "I don't much care about the vote on the floor," said Rep. Jim Himes (D-Conn.), noting that he would vote for the inquiry if it came to the floor. "The point is that it's not required under the rules and there is absolutely no right being denied to the Republicans."

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    this is breaking

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    Yeah this is beautiful. The same ones screaming for transparency with a fast release of the Mullet report
    don't want to set up an official impeachment inquiry where meetings, hearings, questioning, real and equal
    give and take of documents and information would have to be exchanged and made public.
    Bunch of twits.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Yeah this is beautiful. The same ones screaming for transparency with a fast release of the Mullet report
    don't want to set up an official impeachment inquiry where meetings, hearings, questioning, real and equal
    give and take of documents and information would have to be exchanged and made public.
    Bunch of twits.
    if this thing gets to the Senate (and I don't think it will now -i think they just want a platform to slime Trump) it would blow up in their faces as Senators would virtually all call this a sham

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    if this thing gets to the Senate (and I don't think it will now -i think they just want a platform to slime Trump) it would blow up in their faces as Senators would virtually all call this a sham
    Yup. It would be DOA. They just need to keep chaos going up until November 2020. They'll be
    back to Russia, Russia, Russia now or fabricate something else to keep it rolling.
    Abortion rights dogma can obscure human reason & harden the human heart so much that the same person who feels
    empathy for animal suffering can lack compassion for unborn children who experience lethal violence and excruciating
    pain in abortion.

    Unborn animals are protected in their nesting places, humans are not. To abort something is to end something
    which has begun. To abort life is to end it.



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    Unless and until there’s an official and affirmative “impeachment” vote, the president should dismiss any and all “requests” from the Democrats and questions from their comrades in the media.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Yup. It would be DOA. They just need to keep chaos going up until November 2020. They'll be
    back to Russia, Russia, Russia now or fabricate something else to keep it rolling.
    lol.. Russia Russia Russia / Ukraine Ukraine Ukraine

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    Quote Originally Posted by volsrock View Post
    Unless and until there’s an official and affirmative “impeachment” vote, the president should dismiss any and all “requests” from the Democrats and questions from their comrades in the media.
    What an idiot. Trump forbid anyone in the cabinet, or who was in it, or anyone in the administration from testifying or supplying documentation. It did not work. Trumpies are testifying nearly every day. Hill and Yovanovich in the last week, each giving 10 hrs of testimony.
    No vote is required and the investigation is going on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    What an idiot. Trump forbid anyone in the cabinet, or who was in it, or anyone in the administration from testifying or supplying documentation. It did not work. Trumpies are testifying nearly every day. Hill and Yovanovich in the last week, each giving 10 hrs of testimony.
    No vote is required and the investigation is going on.
    It's all window dressing, to keep the plebs from.topping themselves.

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