There Should Be No Columbus Day. The Man Was A Ruthless Villian And A Thief.

[PoliTalker]

Hello Sirthinksalot,

Hi Politalker,



What I was getting at, is that if you go far enough back in history, the Indigenous people who were "oppressed" by Columbus et al were themselves oppressors of others. Throughout history, more technologically advanced people have oppressed the less technologically advanced. Where to draw the line? Why is Columbus terrible, but the Indigenous people were saints, even though they oppressed others when they had the upper hand?

That depends on which indigenous people are being considered. Some engaged in conquests, others simply wished to be left alone and only fought defensively.

[Jack]

Hi Jack,



It's amazing how our view of France bounces around so much. We simply would not have won independence without the French. And the Louisiana Purchase gave us half our nation. But still there is this resentment of the French.

Oh, I see I had something incorrect. Napoleon did not die at the Battle of Waterloo, his great loss which ended his military career. He escaped and was hunted by the Prussian army until he fled to Rochefort where he surrendered to the British. He was then banished to St Helena Island, where he died of poor health.

Celebrating a 'New Race' seems like a Unifying idea. Rather than focus attention on a single person, put the attention on the results of Old World meets New World.

[Celticguy]

The history was always there and little has come to light in the last hundred years or so. Only thing different is opinions.

[Sailor]

The history was always there and little has come to light in the last hundred years or so. Only thing different is opinions.

Most intelligent post on this thread. Nice job.

[Minister of Truth]

Would you have an Al Capone Day?

What did Al Capone contribute to the development of Western Civilization?

[volsrock]

There Should Be No Columbus Day. The Man Was A Ruthless Villian And A Thief.

"Let’s face it. He was not a good guy, but my role as a teacher was to facilitate discovery and allow students to form their own opinions. Sometimes it is hard to just do that and not inject our own views. I know that tide is changing. A teacher I discussed this with said his students still debate it. Some teach him as a straight up villain. Others choose to ignore him and focus on other historical figures like Amerigo Vespucci.

I understand any view of teaching Columbus in school. But, the reality is: we shouldn’t ignore him. His arrival in the Americas is important. This event started a tidal wave of change, exploration, conquest, and colonial domination that would change the world. Students must understand that. Debating teaches students the important skill of perspective: having to defend the actions of someone they consider a villain stretches students’ critical thinking.

I think the days of coloring pictures of ships, singing little songs, and doing other fun projects on Columbus Day are gone – as well they should be. Should there be a holiday? No. Let it just be a part of Fall Break. Should we ignore Columbus? Absolutely not. We have to teach the positive and negative parts of history no matter what."

I think teaching that he was a villian is correct.

Say No To Columbus Day

And MLK was a POS that watched and laughed as a woman was raped

"Let’s face it. He was not a good guy!


We have to teach the positive and negative parts of history no matter what."

Do the teach that Muhammad loved fucking his 9 year old child sex slave

[StoneByStone]

Hello StoneByStone,



Sorry. Not gonna watch a 28 minute video. Find something shorter or a short written piece to sum up your view or just tell us what your position is?

Columbus wasn't nearly as bad as the media makes him out to be.
This isn't part of the video, but the reason he's demonized so much is because the Jewish media is trying to make the Western World less white.

[Darth Omar]

Hi Politalker,

Let's not forget that the Indigenous people who came to America all those millennia ago conquered and exterminated the Neanderthals.

That was tongue in cheek, of course, but on a more serious note...
I find it objectionable to pass judgment upon people who lived hundreds of years ago based on the morality of modern times. It is truly unfair to historical figures.

To make it fair, they would have to teach about the brutality of the indigenous cultures of Columbus’ era lol.

Somehow I don’t think they plan to do that.

[USFREEDOM911]

To make it fair, they would have to teach about the brutality of the indigenous cultures of Columbus’ era lol.

Somehow I don’t think they plan to do that.

[Micawber]

We've already taken matters into our own hands in the great nation of California.

It's Cesar Chavez day instead. Thanks!

[Darth Omar]

^but they were noble lol.

[Micawber]

Most intelligent post on this thread. Nice job.

In the land of the retarded the half wit is king?

[volsrock]

And indigenous leaders cut the hearts out of their own people as sacrifice and then cut off their heads, they also sacrificed young virgin girls to their fake gods, but these idiots believe their lying leaders and professors that the evil imperialist like Columbus and the Spaniards are the enemy and the murdering indigenous leaders weresaints in all of this. Liberal indoctrination at its best

[volsrock]

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[volsrock]

Hello Sirthinksalot,



That depends on which indigenous people are being considered. Some engaged in conquests, others simply wished to be left alone and only fought defensively.

Stop using electricity from the evil white Edison and his ilk.