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    Default Did Joe Biden work with whistleblower when he was VP?

    Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal
    by Rob Crilly
    , Steven Nelson, & David M. Drucker
    | October 10, 2019 06:24 PM


    The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

    Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."

    Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, told members of Congress that the whistleblower had a "professional tie" to a 2020 Democratic candidate. He had written earlier that while the whistleblower's complaint was credible, he had shown "some indicia of an arguable political bias ... in favor of a rival political candidate."


    A retired CIA officer told the Washington Examiner, “From everything we know about the whistleblower and his work in the executive branch then, there is absolutely no doubt he would have been working with Biden when he was vice president."

    As an experienced CIA official on the NSC with the deep knowledge of Ukraine that he demonstrated in his complaint, it is probable that the whistleblower briefed Biden and likely that he accompanied him on Air Force Two during at least one of the six visits the 2020 candidate made to the country.

    A former Trump administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said Biden’s work on foreign affairs brought him into close proximity with the whistleblower either at the CIA or when he was detailed to the White House.

    “This person, after working with Biden, may feel defensive towards him because he feels [Biden] is being falsely attacked. Maybe he is even talking to Biden’s staff,” the former official said. “Maybe it is innocent, maybe not.”

    Last month, the whistleblower accused President Trump of abusing his position by asking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden and his son, Hunter, who sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. His complaint is now at the center of a Democrat-led impeachment inquiry, prompting Trump and his allies to cry foul.

    Biden was President Barack Obama’s "point man" on Ukraine, making a half dozen trips there in his eight years as vice president. Those trips involved briefings from senior intelligence officials and NSC officers, some of whom traveled with him to Kyiv and elsewhere.

    “The Whistleblower has ties to one of my DEMOCRAT OPPONENTS,” tweeted Trump, after the "professional" link was revealed by the Washington Examiner. “Why does the ICIG allow this scam to continue?”

    Trump said Thursday he did not know the identity of the whistleblower.

    The connection to Biden has emerged a week after Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, briefed the House Intelligence Committee on the whistleblower’s complaint.

    After the report on what Atkinson said, lawyers for the whistleblower immediately insisted their client was not motivated by political considerations, but their cryptic comment fueled speculation about his identity. The careful statement did not rule out that the whistleblower worked with one of the candidates before they started running for president.

    "First, our client has never worked for or advised a political candidate, campaign, or party," said Andrew Bakaj and Mark Zaid. "Second, our client has spent their entire government career in apolitical, civil servant positions in the Executive Branch."

    Glenn Carle, a former CIA officer who himself blew the whistle on George W. Bush administration efforts to collect intelligence on an American citizen, said the distinction was crucial. “The truth is that the whistleblower would have worked with Biden not in some partisan political sense but as a member of the government,” he said. “It is scurrilous to suppose there was a political motivation.”

    He added that it was possible that the CIA officer briefed senators or representatives who were now running for president.
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    The Examiner story is based on an anonymous source but I would give it a ‘probably’ that Biden and the WB have had contact lol.

    Problem with the story is it doesn’t protect Biden. In contrast, say an anonymous source claimed Trump had dead bodies buried under Trump Tower—every News Faker outlet would be running with it.

    But no one will touch this Examiner story unless it’s verified.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The Examiner story is based on an anonymous source
    Then it must be TRUE if we use the example morons in the PHONY media give us.
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    Trump is going to be impeached. Your lies and innuendos are meaningless. SUX TO BE YOU.
    Laughing in your face.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    The Examiner story is based on an anonymous source but I would give it a ‘probably’ that Biden and the WB have had contact lol.

    Problem with the story is it doesn’t protect Biden. In contrast, say an anonymous source claimed Trump had dead bodies buried under Trump Tower—every News Faker outlet would be running with it.

    But no one will touch this Examiner story unless it’s verified.
    These days I'll take a story with SOME anonymity over others I've seen with ALL anonymity.
    Kind of sad to get to that point though...to have such low expectations of press credibility. LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    These days I'll take a story with SOME anonymity over others I've seen with ALL anonymity.
    Kind of sad to get to that point though...to have such low expectations of press credibility. LOL
    Probably the only way to verify it would to know the WB’s identity.

    Note the recent move by democrats for ‘letters only’ testimony from the WB. They clearly have a reason to resort to that long shot. The absurd cover story is it’s to ‘protect’ the WB—from what lol?

    Comey, Strzok and the other backstabbers are still out and around.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Micawber View Post
    Trump is going to be impeached. Your lies and innuendos are meaningless. SUX TO BE YOU.
    Laughing in your face.
    HRC is going to win in a landslide! Russian Collusion!! Pipe down you fucking idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Probably the only way to verify it would to know the WB’s identity.

    Note the recent move by democrats for ‘letters only’ testimony from the WB. They clearly have a reason to resort to that long shot. The absurd cover story is it’s to ‘protect’ the WB—from what lol?

    Comey, Strzok and the other backstabbers are still out and around.
    this anonymity this is not absolute and here are overwhelming reasons why testimony should be open and subject to cross examination and due process.

    Besides the fact we know the Dems coordinated the WB to their activist Dem atty to abuse the WB statue
    with a legal brief instead of a complaint in their own words.

    In effect this is letting a Dem atty submit written statements for impeachment

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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    this anonymity this is not absolute and here are overwhelming reasons why testimony should be open and subject to cross examination and due process.

    Besides the fact we know the Dems coordinated the WB to their activist Dem atty to abuse the WB statue
    with a legal brief instead of a complaint in their own words.

    In effect this is letting a Dem atty submit written statements for impeachment
    You will have your opportunity during Senate conviction hearings

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Probably the only way to verify it would to know the WB’s identity.

    Note the recent move by democrats for ‘letters only’ testimony from the WB. They clearly have a reason to resort to that long shot. The absurd cover story is it’s to ‘protect’ the WB—from what lol?

    Comey, Strzok and the other backstabbers are still out and around.
    IMO? It may be an attempt (which still may fail) to protect a 'who', not a 'what'. Clapper and Plugs have already fingered the obvious
    leader of the pack here...Bama. Maybe they just want to at least TRY to avoid a 3rd connection.
    We have to remember that all of THIS impeachment distraction and other actions like the Russian witch hunt, the insurance policy,
    FISA's, etc. lead back to Bama's authority and complicity.
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    Quote Originally Posted by dukkha View Post
    this anonymity this is not absolute and here are overwhelming reasons why testimony should be open and subject to cross examination and due process.

    Besides the fact we know the Dems coordinated the WB to their activist Dem atty to abuse the WB statue
    with a legal brief instead of a complaint in their own words.

    In effect this is letting a Dem atty submit written statements for impeachment
    Allowing secret testimony into a Senate trial would certainly be unprecedented—to put it mildly.

    Republicans would certainly fight it so it would wind up in court. The thing could easily drag on for months. Democrats [and whoever else it is that’s behind this] have already bent their share of rules in trying to ‘stop Trump’ but they are seemingly not to be denied.

    Let them hang themselves with it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Allowing secret testimony into a Senate trial would certainly be unprecedented—to put it mildly.

    Republicans would certainly fight it so it would wind up in court. The thing could easily drag on for months. Democrats [and whoever else it is that’s behind this] have already bent their share of rules in trying to ‘stop Trump’ but they are seemingly not to be denied.

    Let them hang themselves with it.
    I don't think a court would hear it. They'd send Nancy and her political inquisition back to the political arena.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Joe Biden worked with whistleblower when he was vice president, officials reveal
    by Rob Crilly
    , Steven Nelson, & David M. Drucker
    | October 10, 2019 06:24 PM


    The 2020 Democratic candidate with whom the CIA whistleblower had a "professional" tie is Joe Biden, according to intelligence officers and former White House officials.

    Lawyers for the whistleblower said he had worked only "in the executive branch." The Washington Examiner has established that he is a career CIA analyst who was detailed to the National Security Council at the White House and has since left. On Sept. 26, the New York Times reported that he was a CIA officer. On Oct. 4, the newspaper added that he "was detailed to the National Security Council at one point."

    Michael Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, told members of Congress that the whistleblower had a "professional tie" to a 2020 Democratic candidate. He had written earlier that while the whistleblower's complaint was credible, he had shown "some indicia of an arguable political bias ... in favor of a rival political candidate."


    A retired CIA officer told the Washington Examiner, “From everything we know about the whistleblower and his work in the executive branch then, there is absolutely no doubt he would have been working with Biden when he was vice president."

    As an experienced CIA official on the NSC with the deep knowledge of Ukraine that he demonstrated in his complaint, it is probable that the whistleblower briefed Biden and likely that he accompanied him on Air Force Two during at least one of the six visits the 2020 candidate made to the country.

    A former Trump administration official, speaking on condition of anonymity to discuss intelligence matters, said Biden’s work on foreign affairs brought him into close proximity with the whistleblower either at the CIA or when he was detailed to the White House.

    “This person, after working with Biden, may feel defensive towards him because he feels [Biden] is being falsely attacked. Maybe he is even talking to Biden’s staff,” the former official said. “Maybe it is innocent, maybe not.”

    Last month, the whistleblower accused President Trump of abusing his position by asking Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky to investigate Biden and his son, Hunter, who sat on the board of a Ukrainian gas company. His complaint is now at the center of a Democrat-led impeachment inquiry, prompting Trump and his allies to cry foul.

    Biden was President Barack Obama’s "point man" on Ukraine, making a half dozen trips there in his eight years as vice president. Those trips involved briefings from senior intelligence officials and NSC officers, some of whom traveled with him to Kyiv and elsewhere.

    “The Whistleblower has ties to one of my DEMOCRAT OPPONENTS,” tweeted Trump, after the "professional" link was revealed by the Washington Examiner. “Why does the ICIG allow this scam to continue?”

    Trump said Thursday he did not know the identity of the whistleblower.

    The connection to Biden has emerged a week after Atkinson, the Intelligence Community's inspector general, briefed the House Intelligence Committee on the whistleblower’s complaint.

    After the report on what Atkinson said, lawyers for the whistleblower immediately insisted their client was not motivated by political considerations, but their cryptic comment fueled speculation about his identity. The careful statement did not rule out that the whistleblower worked with one of the candidates before they started running for president.

    "First, our client has never worked for or advised a political candidate, campaign, or party," said Andrew Bakaj and Mark Zaid. "Second, our client has spent their entire government career in apolitical, civil servant positions in the Executive Branch."

    Glenn Carle, a former CIA officer who himself blew the whistle on George W. Bush administration efforts to collect intelligence on an American citizen, said the distinction was crucial. “The truth is that the whistleblower would have worked with Biden not in some partisan political sense but as a member of the government,” he said. “It is scurrilous to suppose there was a political motivation.”

    He added that it was possible that the CIA officer briefed senators or representatives who were now running for president.
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    "Did?"

    That is so typical right wing media, introduce an inneundo, talk about, and leave the impression that it is true, FOX does it all day long, Trump from the Presidential pulpit, by tomorrow morning it will be "the whistleblower worked for Joe Biden."

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