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    Default Weed Breathalyzers

    I know we have a bunch of stoners on this board so figure you folks would know about this. Saw something on The Today Show that cops are using weed breathalyzers. Is this a new thing? Anyone know of someone who has been pulled over and tested?

    And stupid question but is there an obvious tell that would make an officer think someone is high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I know we have a bunch of stoners on this board so figure you folks would know about this. Saw something on The Today Show that cops are using weed breathalyzers. Is this a new thing? Anyone know of someone who has been pulled over and tested?

    And stupid question but is there an obvious tell that would make an officer think someone is high?
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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I know we have a bunch of stoners on this board so figure you folks would know about this. Saw something on The Today Show that cops are using weed breathalyzers. Is this a new thing? Anyone know of someone who has been pulled over and tested?

    And stupid question but is there an obvious tell that would make an officer think someone is high?
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    But would it work if the person consumed THC via an edible rather than smoking it?
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    But would it work if the person consumed THC via an edible rather than smoking it?
    I would say yes as the THC in the smoke can be measured why not food. If someone eats a cookie most people can smell the cookie on their breath.

    I am glad you brought that up. Years ago I had a young airman working for me that busted a pee test. When I informed the airman they said "I don't smoke it I bake it in cookies. He/she didn't know the test was for THC in the urine.

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    Suppose you used CBD oil with no THC,is that going to be a false positive?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    I would say yes as the THC in the smoke can be measured why not food. If someone eats a cookie most people can smell the cookie on their breath.

    I am glad you brought that up. Years ago I had a young airman working for me that busted a pee test. When I informed the airman they said "I don't smoke it I bake it in cookies. He/she didn't know the test was for THC in the urine.
    Hahahaha... poor guy. What happened to him?

    I think the pee test is the only accurate way to measure consumption of THC-containing substances. That being said, depending on the fat content of your body, THC can be measured in urine up to 30 days (or even longer) after a dose, so that isn't going to tell law enforcement that you were driving while under its influence. Just that at some point in the last month, you indulged.

    From ScienceDaily:

    "A team has developed a breathalyzer device that can measure the amount of tetrahydrocannabinol (THC), the psychoactive compound in marijuana, in the user's breath. The breathalyzer was developed using carbon nanotubes, tiny tubes of carbon 100,000 times smaller than a human hair. Nanotechnology sensors can detect THC at levels comparable to or better than mass spectrometry, which is considered the gold standard for THC detection." (https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0827123239.htm)

    Personally, this is using science for evil instead of good.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Miss Margot Frank View Post
    Suppose you used CBD oil with no THC,is that going to be a false positive?
    I don't think so.

    "The breathalyzer was developed using carbon nanotubes, tiny tubes of carbon 100,000 times smaller than a human hair. The THC molecule, along with other molecules in the breath, bind to the surface of the nanotubes and change their electrical properties. The speed at which the electrical currents recover then signals whether THC is present. Nanotechnology sensors can detect THC at levels comparable to or better than mass spectrometry, which is considered the gold standard for THC detection." (https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0827123239.htm)

    CBD is not the same molecule as THC which is what the device is calibrated to look for.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    I don't think so.

    "The breathalyzer was developed using carbon nanotubes, tiny tubes of carbon 100,000 times smaller than a human hair. The THC molecule, along with other molecules in the breath, bind to the surface of the nanotubes and change their electrical properties. The speed at which the electrical currents recover then signals whether THC is present. Nanotechnology sensors can detect THC at levels comparable to or better than mass spectrometry, which is considered the gold standard for THC detection." (https://www.sciencedaily.com/release...0827123239.htm)

    CBD is not the same molecule as THC which is what the device is calibrated to look for.
    The breathalyzer will be challenged because what level determines if the driver is impaired?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The breathalyzer will be challenged because what level determines if the driver is impaired?
    That's a good point. It hasn't been legal long enough for standards on impairment to be set like there are with ETOH.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Phantasmal View Post
    The breathalyzer will be challenged because what level determines if the driver is impaired?
    The states will decide, the way they do here in WA with the 0.08% alcohol law. A couple of years ago, the UW even did research into what a comparable THC level would be. Of course, the 0.08 law is a bit of a misnomer, because it also says that the officer can use discretion in determining that you are impaired.

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    Quote Originally Posted by cawacko View Post
    I know we have a bunch of stoners on this board so figure you folks would know about this. Saw something on The Today Show that cops are using weed breathalyzers. Is this a new thing? Anyone know of someone who has been pulled over and tested?

    And stupid question but is there an obvious tell that would make an officer think someone is high?
    You really live in San Francisco? and you are asking how can you tell if a person is high? offer them a brownie and that would help you out. Very disappointed in you "cawacko"

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    Hahahaha... poor guy. What happened to him?

    Lucky for her she was a 1st termer. She lost a stripe (suspended) fined $30.00 a month for 3 months and 30 days extra duty. If she had been an NCO it would have been discharge under less than honorable service.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eagle-Eye View Post
    Lucky for her she was a 1st termer. She lost a stripe (suspended) fined $30.00 a month for 3 months and 30 days extra duty. If she had been an NCO it would have been discharge under less than honorable service.
    Wow. I heard so many stoner stories from guys who were in VN. Guess they are cracking down on drug abuse now?
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