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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post
    Let's just have war with the despicable guy instead of inviting him to talk.
    How's that bromance and nuclear disarmament with Kim going? Or shouldn't we talk about that?

    Hope you got BOB fresh batteries for tonight's rally.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so now Trump does know more than the Pentagon and even his own intelligence entities on the situation, and you really think the Kurds are going to just give up cause Turkey is supposedly moving too fast for them to counter?

    And now you are telling us that the Kurds, who watched Trump abandon them, and are experiencing Turkish bombardment while Trump invites the person responsible for that bombardment as his "guest" to the White House, are going to help out Trump and not come to the aid of their countrymen but rather continue to guard the ISIS prisoners sworn to fight the US?

    Hardly a "false premise," rather a likely probability, there was a reason I included a military source as verification

    And it is noticeable that you didn't respond to the simple question of Trump inviting to the White House one day after Trump abandons via tweet the Kurds the very person now bombing the Kurds
    How many home runs have the Pentagon and the ‘intelligence agencies’ [something of an oxymoron lately] hit in the Middle East in the last 20 years lol?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    Who’s been telling you it was a problem?

    Erdogan is an ally *according to treaty*. If you want to argue Turkey has no business being in NATO I’m all ears.
    Oh, so inviting to the White House as your "guest" the very person who one day after you kiss off an ally is bombing that ally is copacetic? That is a great message to send to the world community, and surely they noticed

    Good luck finding another ally for intelligence or actual ground fighting if situations in the Middle East demand such, better yet, finding an ally with Trump promises

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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    How many home runs have the Pentagon and the ‘intelligence agencies’ [something of an oxymoron lately] hit in the Middle East in the last 20 years lol?
    What ever it is it is higher than Trump's

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    How's that bromance and nuclear disarmament with Kim going? Or shouldn't we talk about that?

    Hope you got BOB fresh batteries for tonight's rally.
    And Trump abandons allies on the bull shit premise of removing troops for their sake but sends troops to the Saudis who butchered a journalist alive and produced the 9/11 hijackers.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so inviting to the White House as your "guest" the very person who one day after you kiss off an ally is bombing that ally is copacetic? That is a great message to send to the world community, and surely they noticed

    Good luck finding another ally for intelligence or actual ground fighting if situations in the Middle East demand such, better yet, finding an ally with Trump promises
    No one in the Middle East is going to turn down military help from the US.

    You keep falling back on the boilerplate ‘ally’ thing. If and when it happens the Kurds find us useful, they will welcome us as ‘allies’.

    Take it to the bank.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so now Trump does know more than the Pentagon and even his own intelligence entities on the situation, and you really think the Kurds are going to just give up cause Turkey is supposedly moving too fast for them to counter?
    it wouldn't be the first time the Pentagon endorsed Iraq and Libya.
    They are warhawks -they skew their thinking as such

    And now you are telling us that the Kurds, who watched Trump abandon them, and are experiencing Turkish bombardment while Trump invites the person responsible for that bombardment as his "guest" to the White House, are going to help out Trump and not come to the aid of their countrymen but rather continue to guard the ISIS prisoners sworn to fight the US?
    I explained to you the logistics would make it impossible or very difficult/ these are what you don't get while watching expert on TV.
    They talk in general terms of "abandoning the Kurds", but don't drill down to the operational level and game it
    TYey were wrong about "jailbreaks and other crap as well -you would do better thinking things thru for yourself

    Hardly a "false premise," rather a likely probability, there was a reason I included a military source as verification
    "military sources" would have us in perpetual deployment.
    Unless you see a step by step war game analysis -at least take it with a jaundiced eye.


    And it is noticeable that you didn't respond to the simple question of Trump inviting to the White House one day after Trump abandons via tweet the Kurds the very person now bombing the Kurds
    I'm fine with it. They need to meet up we have lots of mutual concerns, and conflicts to work thru

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And Trump abandons allies on the bull shit premise of removing troops for their sake but sends troops to the Saudis who butchered a journalist alive and produced the 9/11 hijackers.
    I remember when Obama came to the Kurds rescue with all our troops and supplies when they were getting gassed by Assad? The great humanitarian efforts he did were, well, non existent. Never happened. Were you upset then? I was. Am now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    What ever it is it is higher than Trump's
    Trump has yet to make an error lol.

    Give us a ballpark figure. How many Home Runs have the ‘experts’ hit in the Middle East?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Oh, so inviting to the White House as your "guest" the very person who one day after you kiss off an ally is bombing that ally is copacetic? That is a great message to send to the world community, and surely they noticed

    Good luck finding another ally for intelligence or actual ground fighting if situations in the Middle East demand such, better yet, finding an ally with Trump promises
    we will when we need it if it meets the needs of a potential partner.
    It's called "transactionalism" -or I call it realpolitik.

    If it's in a states interest the will do it - if not they wont.
    Hopefully Trumps goal of STAYING THE FUCK OUT OF FOREIGN CIVIL WARS means we wont need them

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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    How's that bromance and nuclear disarmament with Kim going? Or shouldn't we talk about that?

    Hope you got BOB fresh batteries for tonight's rally.

    I know! Let's just kill'm all! Yeah...that's it!!!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

    I know! Let's just kill'm all! Yeah...that's it!!!!!
    maintain a war posture always!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Cinnabar View Post
    And Trump abandons allies on the bull shit premise of removing troops for their sake but sends troops to the Saudis who butchered a journalist alive and produced the 9/11 hijackers.
    Yep. I've seen the stupid excuses the Trumpanzees are offering now... "Oh, it's just a little way into Syria so they won't kill *that* many of our former allies."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Stretch View Post

    I know! Let's just kill'm all! Yeah...that's it!!!!!
    I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the lefties getting their warmonger on lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Darth Omar View Post
    I’m still trying to wrap my brain around the lefties getting their warmonger on lol.
    Yeah I know right? Far cry from what I saw in the 60's. LOL! I just shake my head.
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