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    Default Noncooperation With Congress? Yeah, Nixon Tried That. Didn't Work For Him Either.

    The power of impeachment lies with the House.

    It is not up to the executive to decide how impeachment is supposed to go.

    The power lies with the House. That's in the Constitution. The House has no Rules requiring a floor vote.

    And there is no court to go to about this. (Trump's favorite recourse to get his way.)

    Nixon tried not cooperating with the House. Nixon also had articles against him for obstructing the Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Watergate.

    Trump is going to have articles against him for obstructing the House Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Abuse of office and Violation of Oath of office, over the Ukraine Affair.

    Keep it up, Mr. President. You're just digging yourself in deeper.
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    What Trump is doing is called obstruction. Mueller showed another 10 incidents of obstruction.

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    The parallels to the Nixon impeachment grow by the day.

    There was a reason so many Republicans were so reluctant to get behind Trump in the first place.
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    Since the Democrats as a Party declared themselves as actively 'Resistant' to anything and everything he does, no matter what, why would he cooperate? What incentive does he have? It's kind of silly to expect him to cooperate, especially when we all know if they vote for impeachment it will blow up in their faces like all of their previous claims and actions; the Senate is not going to remove him from office, and probably won't even pay any attention to the demand. They gave away 2020 to Trump with their open admission of favoring illegal aliens over citizens in their fake 'Debates' on national TV. One doesn't have to be a partisan to see the obvious here.

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    What will happen if this causes an investigation of Biden and his son, and we get to watch on live TV as Joe and his son take the 5th a hundred times over his visits to Red China and the Ukraine? With Giden already toast, they;re left with Warren now, and we know she can't win against Trump, and again only a deranged partisan would believe otherwise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The power of impeachment lies with the House.

    It is not up to the executive to decide how impeachment is supposed to go.

    The power lies with the House. That's in the Constitution. The House has no Rules requiring a floor vote.

    And there is no court to go to about this. (Trump's favorite recourse to get his way.)

    Nixon tried not cooperating with the House. Nixon also had articles against him for obstructing the Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Watergate.

    Trump is going to have articles against him for obstructing the House Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Abuse of office and Violation of Oath of office, over the Ukraine Affair.

    Keep it up, Mr. President. You're just digging yourself in deeper.
    This is why I say that muh constitution is a useless piece of paper. If the president doesn't want to follow its rules, who is going to make him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Noncooperation With Congress? Yeah, Nixon Tried That. Didn't Work For Him Either.
    This isn't Watergate. There has been no vote on impeachment. No one is obligated to kowtow to letter demands from loons in the House.
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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    Unless you just can't stand the idea of "ni**ers" teaching white kids.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    What Trump is doing is called obstruction. Mueller showed another 10 incidents of obstruction.
    Obviously you don't know what obstruction means. I bet you thought the same stupid thing with the Mueller HOAX too.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The parallels to the Nixon impeachment grow by the day.
    Wrong; this is NOTHING like Watergate. Watergate began with a crime and then a cover up. There is none here. It is a brain dead hack fishing expedition that for three years has come up with NOTHING and made the Party of the Jackass look like do-nothing fools.

    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There was a reason so many Republicans were so reluctant to get behind Trump in the first place.
    Pegged the BS meter on this one.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Since the Democrats as a Party declared themselves as actively 'Resistant' to anything and everything he does, no matter what, why would he cooperate? What incentive does he have? It's kind of silly to expect him to cooperate, especially when we all know if they vote for impeachment it will blow up in their faces like all of their previous claims and actions; the Senate is not going to remove him from office, and probably won't even pay any attention to the demand. They gave away 2020 to Trump with their open admission of favoring illegal aliens over citizens in their fake 'Debates' on national TV. One doesn't have to be a partisan to see the obvious here.
    Chuck has a brain and gets it. Leftists, not so much.
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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is why I say that muh constitution is a useless piece of paper.
    More proof of your lack of intelligence and education.

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    If the president doesn't want to follow its rules, who is going to make him?
    What rules? The made up rules the Party of the Jackass are creating for their clown show?
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    Hello Chuck,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    Since the Democrats as a Party declared themselves as actively 'Resistant' to anything and everything he does, no matter what,
    While some Democrats may have done that there is no such official party policy. Political extrapolations are unwise.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    why would he cooperate? What incentive does he have?
    Not incurring an impeachment simply because he defied Constitutional directives.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    It's kind of silly to expect him to cooperate, especially when we all know if they vote for impeachment it will blow up in their faces like all of their previous claims and actions;
    We know no such thing. Any speculations as to how this will play out are just that. Speculations.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    the Senate is not going to remove him from office,
    There is no such common knowledge. Trump himself is very worried about it. He is sending mixed messages as usual. There was an attempt to claim he was delighted and felt that it was sure to help him, but then there has also been a lot of tweeting and attacking others, lashing out at anyone he thinks may divert attention from his plight.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    and probably won't even pay any attention to the demand.
    McConnell has said the Senate will hold the trial if the House impeaches.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    They gave away 2020 to Trump with their open admission of favoring illegal aliens over citizens in their fake 'Debates' on national TV. One doesn't have to be a partisan to see the obvious here.
    Actually that messaging plays very well with a lot of people. Our fastest growing population sector is Hispanic. Republicans are losing the demographics over time. Xenophobia only plays to a shrinking mostly older mindset.
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    Hello Chuck,

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    What will happen if this causes an investigation of Biden and his son, and we get to watch on live TV as Joe and his son take the 5th a hundred times over his visits to Red China and the Ukraine?
    I have zero doubt that if there was anything to investigate about Biden and or his son that team Trump would have already done so long ago. These efforts to try to dig up dirt from other nations strike me as desperation moves. Trump is without informed constraint, listens to nobody, his entire staff afraid to tell him what he doesn't want to hear. Those who have tried all got fired. He is left with a team of yes men. He does not get good advice, so he does whatever comes to mind, which is why he broke his oath of office by asking foreign nationals for help in his political pursuits.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chuck View Post
    With Giden already toast, they;re left with Warren now, and we know she can't win against Trump, and again only a deranged partisan would believe otherwise.
    I heard that it has rarely happened that the leaders in the polls over a year out from an election eventually become the winner. How many times did the Republican poll leader swap? New candidates could even still enter the race. It is premature to count Biden out just yet, none the less. He is getting some favorable PR out of this whole Ukraine scandal, despite his mouth and questionable debate performances. The conspiracy theories Trump acted on were debunked before he bit on them. He wished they were true, placed his stake on it, and it appears to be a gambit which has failed.
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    Hello StoneByStone,

    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is why I say that muh constitution is a useless piece of paper. If the president doesn't want to follow its rules, who is going to make him?
    Congress. They actually have the power to have him physically dragged out of the White House if it comes to that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Hello StoneByStone,



    Congress. They actually have the power to have him physically dragged out of the White House if it comes to that.
    Congress has almost 200 Republicans and they're going to defend Trump no matter what.

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