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Thread: Noncooperation With Congress? Yeah, Nixon Tried That. Didn't Work For Him Either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Trump is a bad president and a bad human being. His flaws run through everything he touches. Laws and rules are just obstacles to be beaten or ignored. The consideration for Trump is does it profit him? Do people think he actually cares about the country?
    why do you allow hatred to animate your soul?

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    Quote Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
    Listen to the hypocrite who has everyone who disagrees with her on ignore asking for a reply.
    As a moderate I'm perfectly willing to discuss Trump's real faults, but unfortunately Democrats and faux 'Progressives' have become full out traitors and a Party shilling for violent racist genocides and can't seem to post anything but memes their Party tells them to parrot, which have no base at all in reality, like some bourgeoisie Burb Brat college kids reading Maoist speeches on May day and wondering why they're laughed at and ignored.

    I only take American citizens and patriots seriously re discussing American politics, regardless of their place on the spectrum. It's probably time to follow Thomas Jefferson's advice and start deporting the malcontents who reject American principles and advocate radical racial replacement agendas and the extreme violence that accompanies such 'ethnic cleansing' agendas, as the Democratic Party's entire raft of Presidential candidates endorsed in both of their faux 'Debates' on national television. It was only a matter of time they would come out of their closet on that goal, after seeing how well their agenda of genociding Jews out of the ME flew with their Obama led base, 100% support for that mass murder agenda as well. Obama's popularity with the Democratic Party 's base went way up when he looted billions out of the US Treasury in untraceable cash to the Iranians after they promised to nuke Israel.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Why would Trump cooperate? If he is innocent, he would walk away free and clear and win the next election. He should gladly provide all they want and then they will stop. They are not like the Reds who had a dozen investigations into Hillary. They are investigating what are potentially real and serious crimes. Trump could prove them wrong. Or act like a criminal with much to hide. That is what he is doing bigly.
    Because you would have to be blind to support him, he is guilty he has verbally admitted it himself and has done it in front of a camera. The hate party thinks that the law can be changed to protect this scum bag.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The power of impeachment lies with the House.

    It is not up to the executive to decide how impeachment is supposed to go.

    The power lies with the House. That's in the Constitution. The House has no Rules requiring a floor vote.

    And there is no court to go to about this. (Trump's favorite recourse to get his way.)

    Nixon tried not cooperating with the House. Nixon also had articles against him for obstructing the Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Watergate.

    Trump is going to have articles against him for obstructing the House Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Abuse of office and Violation of Oath of office, over the Ukraine Affair.

    Keep it up, Mr. President. You're just digging yourself in deeper.
    Nixon wasn't impeached.

    The Senate will be the court, if the Democrats are stupid enough to impeach.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    What Trump is doing is called obstruction. Mueller showed another 10 incidents of obstruction.
    What obstruction?

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    This is why I say that muh constitution is a useless piece of paper. If the president doesn't want to follow its rules, who is going to make him?
    No, that would be the Democrats and other liberals.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Not incurring an impeachment simply because he defied Constitutional directives.
    Specify. Void argument fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There is no such common knowledge. Trump himself is very worried about it.
    No, he's out getting things done, despite all the persecution.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    He is sending mixed messages as usual.
    No, his messages on Twitter are pretty consistent.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    There was an attempt to claim he was delighted and felt that it was sure to help him, but then there has also been a lot of tweeting and attacking others, lashing out at anyone he thinks may divert attention from his plight.
    Non-exclusive. False dichotomy fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    McConnell has said the Senate will hold the trial if the House impeaches.
    So? That's the law. Personally, I hope the Democrats are stupid enough to impeach. It would be political suicide for Biden, Schiff, and Pelosi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    No, that would be the Democrats and other liberals.
    #whataboutism

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    Hello MASON,

    Quote Originally Posted by MASON View Post
    We are a country of laws.
    Doesn't matter your political party.
    Ignore a subpoena,you go to jail.
    Kim Davis tried to ignore the law. See where it got her.
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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The power of impeachment lies with the House.
    Yup. The question is: Are they stupid enough to do it?
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    It is not up to the executive to decide how impeachment is supposed to go.
    He isn't. He is simply not participating in it. He doesn't have to.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The power lies with the House. That's in the Constitution. The House has no Rules requiring a floor vote.
    The Constitution does though.
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    And there is no court to go to about this. (Trump's favorite recourse to get his way.)
    Yes there is. It's called the Senate.
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    Nixon tried not cooperating with the House. Nixon also had articles against him for obstructing the Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Watergate.
    Nixon wasn't impeached.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Trump is going to have articles against him for obstructing the House Impeachment Inquiry, in addition to Abuse of office and Violation of Oath of office, over the Ukraine Affair.
    For what crimes? He has not even violated his oath of office.
    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    Keep it up, Mr. President. You're just digging yourself in deeper.
    No, that would be the Democrats. Inversion fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by PoliTalker View Post
    The parallels to the Nixon impeachment grow by the day.

    There was a reason so many Republicans were so reluctant to get behind Trump in the first place.
    Nixon wasn't impeached. Trump is not going to resign.

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    Quote Originally Posted by StoneByStone View Post
    #whataboutism
    Buzzword fallacy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    why do you allow hatred to animate your soul?
    No hatred. It is just an honest observation of who he is made by evaluating his actions and speech. I don't hate him, but I see him as a very childish and selfish person who is not too bright. He is not qualified for the job. I just hope America can survive his clownish presidency.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    No hatred. It is just an honest observation of who he is made by evaluating his actions and speech. I don't hate him, but I see him as a very childish and selfish person who is not too bright. He is not qualified for the job. I just hope America can survive his clownish presidency.
    you live in a world of made up lies, dude.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nixon wasn't impeached. Trump is not going to resign.
    Nixon was informed that he was going to get impeached by Repub senators. Then he resigned. It was going to happen.
    Trump will do what profits him. He will resign before getting impeached or doing too much damage to his brand.

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