Trump refuses to be impeached.: public discussion

[Into the Night]

Do you have a link to that insanity a source to post?? Of course you dont its all a lie, my dear

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

See the Constitution of the United States, especially Articles I, II, and III. You should also review the 5th amendment, and the 14th amendment.

[StoneByStone]

A classic example of guilt by association fallacy. The Democrats are corrupt, so Trump is too???

That's not what I said. You're definitely the dumbest person on the entire forum.

[floridafan]

Attempted force of negative proof fallacy.

See the Constitution of the United States, especially Articles I, II, and III. You should also review the 5th amendment, and the 14th amendment.

Its all been read and reviewed and there is nothing there, liar.

[christiefan915]

Yes, a vote is required. See Article I.

Here's Article 1. Where does it say a vote is required?

Section 1
All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives.

Section 2
The House of Representatives shall be composed of Members chosen every second Year by the People of the several States, and the Electors in each State shall have the Qualifications requisite for Electors of the most numerous Branch of the State Legislature.

No Person shall be a Representative who shall not have attained to the Age of twenty five Years, and been seven Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State in which he shall be chosen.

Representatives and direct Taxes shall be apportioned among the several States which may be included within this Union, according to their respective Numbers, which shall be determined by adding to the whole Number of free Persons, including those bound to Service for a Term of Years, and excluding Indians not taxed, three fifths of all other Persons. The actual Enumeration shall be made within three Years after the first Meeting of the Congress of the United States, and within every subsequent Term of ten Years, in such Manner as they shall by Law direct. The Number of Representatives shall not exceed one for every thirty Thousand, but each State shall have at Least one Representative; and until such enumeration shall be made, the State of New Hampshire shall be entitled to choose three, Massachusetts eight, Rhode-Island and Providence Plantations one, Connecticut five, New-York six, New Jersey four, Pennsylvania eight, Delaware one, Maryland six, Virginia ten, North Carolina five, South Carolina five, and Georgia three.

When vacancies happen in the Representation from any State, the Executive Authority thereof shall issue Writs of Election to fill such Vacancies. The House of Representatives shall choose their Speaker and other Officers; and shall have the sole Power of Impeachment.

Section 3
The Senate of the United States shall be composed of two Senators from each State, chosen by the Legislature thereof, for six Years; and each Senator shall have one Vote.
Immediately after they shall be assembled in Consequence of the first Election, they shall be divided as equally as may be into three Classes. The Seats of the Senators of the first Class shall be vacated at the Expiration of the second Year, of the second Class at the Expiration of the fourth Year, and of the third Class at the Expiration of the sixth Year, so that one third may be chosen every second Year; and if Vacancies happen by Resignation, or otherwise, during the Recess of the Legislature of any State, the Executive thereof may make temporary Appointments until the next Meeting of the Legislature, which shall then fill such Vacancies.

No Person shall be a Senator who shall not have attained to the Age of thirty Years, and been nine Years a Citizen of the United States, and who shall not, when elected, be an Inhabitant of that State for which he shall be chosen.

The Vice President of the United States shall be President of the Senate, but shall have no Vote, unless they be equally divided.

The Senate shall choose their other Officers, and also a President pro tempore, in the Absence of the Vice President, or when he shall exercise the Office of President of the United States.

The Senate shall have the sole Power to try all Impeachments. When sitting for that Purpose, they shall be on Oath or Affirmation. When the President of the United States is tried, the Chief Justice shall preside: And no Person shall be convicted without the Concurrence of two thirds of the Members present.

Judgment in Cases of Impeachment shall not extend further than to removal from Office, and disqualification to hold and enjoy any Office of honor, Trust or Profit under the United States: but the Party convicted shall nevertheless be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment and Punishment, according to Law.

Section 4

The Times, Places and Manner of holding Elections for Senators and Representatives, shall be prescribed in each State by the Legislature thereof; but the Congress may at any time by Law make or alter such Regulations, except as to the Places of choosing Senators.

The Congress shall assemble at least once in every Year, and such Meeting shall be on the first Monday in December, unless they shall by Law appoint a different Day.

[countryboy]

I wonder how Republicans would have reacted if Bill Clinton tried this.

Like it or not, Bubba actually broke the law by lying under oath. No matter how you idiots try and spin it, Trump has done nothing wrong, let alone illegal.

[Truth Detector]

One of the dumber titles of a thread, that's for sure. Trump is simply refusing to cooperate with secretive committees set up to obviously try to throw him out of office, does not allow him to face his accusers, and does not allow him to cross examine any witnesses or the accusers.
Can't really blame Trump for refusing to cooperate with these jerks.

Spot on.

[Truth Detector]

Here's Article 1. Where does it say a vote is required?

The Constitution does not specify how impeachment proceedings are to be initiated. In recent years, Members of the House Judiciary Committee have initiated the proceeding and then made recommendations for the whole House's consideration. If the House votes an impeachment resolution, the Chairman of the Judiciary Committee recommends a slate of "managers," whom the House subsequently approves by resolution, and who then become prosecutors in the trial in the Senate.

[bhaktajan]

Have we ever experienced such mass cognitive dissonance before?

Yes!

cognitive dissonance of Hippies will take over the world.

cognitive dissonance of Sagging pants and plumber's butt becoming a fashion fad.

cognitive dissonance by Japanese in WW2.

cognitive dissonance by Nazis in WW2.

cognitive dissonance by German Jews in the 1930's.

cognitive dissonance by Incas & Aztec after 1492.

cognitive dissonance by the US confederacy.

cognitive dissonance by girls with unwanted pregnancies.

cognitive dissonance by those with STD's.

cognitive dissonance by wrongful shootings.

cognitive dissonance by pooper scoopers in San Francisco.

cognitive dissonance by Ebonics speakers in a Media saturated culture.

cognitive dissonance by thugs that abide Hobos.

cognitive dissonance by Law courts with stupidity.

[countryboy]

Here's Article 1. Where does it say a vote is required?

Where does it say the Speaker can act unilaterally? How else would you involve the entire house, besides with a vote? Don't be so ridiculously contrarian.

[reagansghost]

Where does it say the Speaker can act unilaterally?

how is she acting unilaterally?

explain

[Adolf_Twitler]

I agree with this completely. Well put.

Originally Posted by RB 60 View Post
Why should he stoop to their level by making up his own rules? He should just let them know he won't put up with their shit and let it at that.
Sooner or later the general public will get tired of the Dems pointless accusations and Trump will see another 4 years as president.

I do, however, agree that many Reps lack the balls to confront these whining Dems. They should be met with the same (or more) amount of resistance.

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But, that is what Donald Trump did- MAKE UP HIS OWN RULES!

The non-professional letter that the White House sent to Nancy Pelosi was not even a legal document in any sense of the word. In fact, it was about the most laughing stock non-legal document that has no bearing on the power of Congress or rule of any known law known to any American, but rather an official document that the president is confessing to continuing to an Obstruction Of Justice.

I can't believe that you idiot leg-humping Trump ass-kissers think that that was a smart or brave strategy by the idiot White House abomination of the presidency.

It is a signed confession that he and his White House Staff intends to Obstruct Justice.

It will be used as evidence against him!

How stupid!

What the Republicans do not have the Balls for is standing up for the Constitution and admitting that their leader is an idiot and joining us to rid the nation of a traitorous president.

That's OK, as we will impeach him, and if he is not removed from office- WE WILL on November- 2020!

[christiefan915]

Where does it say the Speaker can act unilaterally? How else would you involve the entire house, besides with a vote? Don't be so ridiculously contrarian.

I never said the Speaker can act unilaterally, don't put words in my mouth. I asked where in Article 1 does it say a vote is required to start an impeachment investigation. There is no impeachment going on yet.

[christiefan915]

how is she acting unilaterally?

explain

She's not. He's just looking for an argument.

[Sirthinksalot]

I wonder how Republicans would have reacted if Bill Clinton tried this.

Bill Clinton was allowed due process. Dems were allowed subpoena power. Your comparison is silly.

[Flash]

Yes, a vote is required. See Article I.

The vote is required to impeach, not start an inquiry.