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    Default It is time for the Christian church to respond to Christianist violence in America

    It is high time that Christians take a strong response on violent Christianism and white supremacy in America. A strong response would emphatically state why these violent ideals do not align with the faith. A strong response would seek out those members of the church who are vulnerable to targeted recruitment and finding a community to help them. A strong response would involve taking part in this discussion and supporting mental health awareness. And a strong response would include new gun control measures. Church leaders and members alike should more deeply reflect on their responsibility to mitigate this increasing epidemic of white supremacist terrorism.


    The sentiment following 9/11 seemed to define Islam as a dangerous religion, when in fact, any religion can be skewed by power-grabbing individuals to suit their prerogatives. Lets not forget that European Christians Crusades. Today, I don't see politically-aligned Christians saying the same thing about the violence of Christian white supremacists.


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    There is no Christian violence in America. Stop lying pruno.
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    There's plenty of "Christian violence" in this country. Depends on how you define it, of course.

    The problem with the OP is that there is no one Xtian church. There are literally thousands, all with different beliefs and ideas. So trying to get them all on the same page would be like herding cats.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ThatOwlWoman View Post
    There's plenty of "Christian violence" in this country. Depends on how you define it, of course.

    The problem with the OP is that there is no one Xtian church. There are literally thousands, all with different beliefs and ideas. So trying to get them all on the same page would be like herding cats.
    I guess you have a point, if you're a lying lib and pretend there's rampant Christian violence in this country, that's one way to "define" it. Libs aren't exactly known for your honesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    violent Christianism
    got an example?......the ones you usually post all turned out to be violent atheists......
    Isaiah 6:5
    “Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    It is high time that Christians take a strong response on violent Christianism and white supremacy in America. A strong response would emphatically state why these violent ideals do not align with the faith. A strong response would seek out those members of the church who are vulnerable to targeted recruitment and finding a community to help them. A strong response would involve taking part in this discussion and supporting mental health awareness. And a strong response would include new gun control measures. Church leaders and members alike should more deeply reflect on their responsibility to mitigate this increasing epidemic of white supremacist terrorism.

    The sentiment following 9/11 seemed to define Islam as a dangerous religion, when in fact, any religion can be skewed by power-grabbing individuals to suit their prerogatives. Lets not forget that European Christians Crusades. Today, I don't see politically-aligned Christians saying the same thing about the violence of Christian white supremacists.


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    Show specific examples of what you claim. White Supremacists are not Christian no matter what they say

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    There is no Christian violence in America. Stop lying pruno.
    Of course there is, you stupid whore.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ptif219 View Post
    Show specific examples of what you claim. White Supremacists are not Christian no matter what they say
    Ah, so you admit that white supremacists are exclusively and universally Christian.

    Thanks. Got it.

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    Goyim savages

    Anders Behring Breivik was convicted for the 2011 Norway attacks, in which he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo and then shot dead 69 participants at a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya, leaving 77 dead. On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his militant ideology.[83][84][85][86] In them, he lays out a worldview that encompasses opposition to Islam and blames feminism for causing Europe's "cultural suicide".[87][88] The texts call Islam and "Cultural Marxism" the enemy and advocate the deportation of all Muslims from Europe based on the model of the Beneš decrees, while also claiming that feminism and Islam exist to destroy Christian European culture.[89][90] Breivik wrote that his main motive for the atrocities was to market his manifesto.[91] Breivik contends that he is waging a Christian Crusade against multiculturalism and believes that the attacks were "necessary".[92] His manifesto also states that its author is "100 percent Christian",[57] but he is not "excessively religious".[57] Nevertheless, he said he planned to pray to God for help during his attacks.[93] Before the attacks, he stated an intention to attend Frogner Church in a final "Martyr's mass".[94] In 2015, Breivik claimed to be an Odinist, but Breivik and others have previously linked his religious beliefs to Christianity during the attacks.[95]

    Deputy police chief Roger Andresen initially told reporters that the information on Breivik's websites was "so to speak, Christian fundamentalist"[96][97][98][99] and many mainstream media such as The New York Times have described him a Christian fundamentalist.[100] Others, however, have disputed Andresen's characterisation of Breivik as a Christian fundamentalist.[101]

    Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder were a gay couple from Redding, California, who were murdered by Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams in 1999. Neighbors said that the family was known for its fundamentalist Christian beliefs, and that recordings of sermons and religious music were often heard from their house.[102] The two perpetrators are believed to have had ties to the Christian Identity movement. They were also suspected of playing a role in 18 arson attacks on three synagogues.[103]

    In 1996 three men—Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merelle—were charged with two bank robberies and bombings at the banks, a Spokane newspaper, and a Planned Parenthood office in Washington State. The men were anti-Semitic Christian Identity theorists who believed that God wanted them to carry out violent attacks and they also believed that such attacks would hasten the ascendancy of the Aryan race.[104]

    In 2015, Robert Doggart, a 63-year-old mechanical engineer, was indicted for solicitation to commit a civil rights violation by intending to damage or destroy religious property after communicating that he intended to amass weapons to attack Islamberg, an Islamic hamlet and religious community in Delaware County, New York.[105] Doggart, a member of several private militia groups, communicated to an FBI source in a phone call that he had an M4 carbine with "500 rounds of ammunition" that he intended to take to the Delaware County enclave, along with a handgun, molotov cocktails and a machete. The FBI source recorded him saying "if it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds".[106] Doggart had previously travelled to a site in Dover, Tennessee, which had been described as a "jihadist training camp", in chain emails and found that the claims were wrong. In April, Doggart accepted a plea bargain and stated that he had "willfully and knowingly sent a message in interstate commerce containing a true threat" to injure someone. The plea bargain was struck down by a judge because it did not contain enough facts to constitute a true threat.[107][108] Doggart, who describes himself as a Christian minister in the "Christian National (Congregational) Church" (apparently the National Association of Congregational Christian Churches).[109] None of the charges against him are terrorism related, however, some groups have described his actions as such.[110][111][112][113]

    According to University of Auckland Professor Douglas Pratt, who is an international expert in religious terrorism, the Christchurch mosque shootings which killed 51 people and injured 50 more (primarily Muslims) at Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Islamic Centre in Christchurch, New Zealand were a form of "Christian terrorism" and white supremacy. Australia-born Christchurch shooter Brenton Harrison Tarrant's manifesto The Great Replacement named after the French far-right theory of the same name quoted Pope Urban II (who ordered The First Crusade) and his speech demanding the retaking of Jerusalem, the death of 11-year-old Swedish girl Ebba Akerlund, NATO involvement in Kosovo, a desire to retake Istanbul (aka Constantinople) from Turkey to have in Christian hands and the motives listed was in his own words revenge against Islam. The shooter's rifles were covered with white supremacist symbols and names of various historical figures and battles between Muslims and non-Muslims such as Charles Martel and Skanderbeg as well as the Battle of Tours in 732 and Battle of Vienna in 1683.[114][115][116][117]

    The perpetrator of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooting Robert Bowers cited a Bible quote about Jesus Christ on the bio of his now defunct Gab account.[118] Similarly the Poway synagogue shooting suspect John T. Earnest also used Bible quotes to justify the attack and had burned down a mosque in Escondido, California earlier in March 2019.[
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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    There is no Christian violence in America. Stop lying pruno.
    The KKK consider themselves to be devout Christians.

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    Why a White Christian Isn't Called a Terrorist


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    Quote Originally Posted by CharacterAssassin View Post
    Ah, so you admit that white supremacists are exclusively and universally Christian.

    Thanks. Got it.
    So you have to lie to take me out of context. They are not Christian

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    Another faulty premise from a JPP leftist the should commit suicide

    I hope a muslime beheads you

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    Quote Originally Posted by guno View Post
    Goyim savages

    Anders Behring Breivik was convicted for the 2011 Norway attacks, in which he killed eight people by detonating a van bomb amid Regjeringskvartalet in Oslo and then shot dead 69 participants at a Workers' Youth League (AUF) summer camp on the island of Utøya, leaving 77 dead. On the day of the attacks, Breivik electronically distributed a compendium of texts entitled 2083: A European Declaration of Independence, describing his militant ideology.[83][84][85][86] In them, he lays out a worldview that encompasses opposition to Islam and blames feminism for causing Europe's "cultural suicide".[87][88] The texts call Islam and "Cultural Marxism" the enemy and advocate the deportation of all Muslims from Europe based on the model of the Beneš decrees, while also claiming that feminism and Islam exist to destroy Christian European culture.[89][90] Breivik wrote that his main motive for the atrocities was to market his manifesto.[91] Breivik contends that he is waging a Christian Crusade against multiculturalism and believes that the attacks were "necessary".[92] His manifesto also states that its author is "100 percent Christian",[57] but he is not "excessively religious".[57] Nevertheless, he said he planned to pray to God for help during his attacks.[93] Before the attacks, he stated an intention to attend Frogner Church in a final "Martyr's mass".[94] In 2015, Breivik claimed to be an Odinist, but Breivik and others have previously linked his religious beliefs to Christianity during the attacks.[95]

    Deputy police chief Roger Andresen initially told reporters that the information on Breivik's websites was "so to speak, Christian fundamentalist"[96][97][98][99] and many mainstream media such as The New York Times have described him a Christian fundamentalist.[100] Others, however, have disputed Andresen's characterisation of Breivik as a Christian fundamentalist.[101]

    Gary Matson and Winfield Mowder were a gay couple from Redding, California, who were murdered by Benjamin Matthew Williams and James Tyler Williams in 1999. Neighbors said that the family was known for its fundamentalist Christian beliefs, and that recordings of sermons and religious music were often heard from their house.[102] The two perpetrators are believed to have had ties to the Christian Identity movement. They were also suspected of playing a role in 18 arson attacks on three synagogues.[103]

    In 1996 three men—Charles Barbee, Robert Berry and Jay Merelle—were charged with two bank robberies and bombings at the banks, a Spokane newspaper, and a Planned Parenthood office in Washington State. The men were anti-Semitic Christian Identity theorists who believed that God wanted them to carry out violent attacks and they also believed that such attacks would hasten the ascendancy of the Aryan race.[104]

    In 2015, Robert Doggart, a 63-year-old mechanical engineer, was indicted for solicitation to commit a civil rights violation by intending to damage or destroy religious property after communicating that he intended to amass weapons to attack Islamberg, an Islamic hamlet and religious community in Delaware County, New York.[105] Doggart, a member of several private militia groups, communicated to an FBI source in a phone call that he had an M4 carbine with "500 rounds of ammunition" that he intended to take to the Delaware County enclave, along with a handgun, molotov cocktails and a machete. The FBI source recorded him saying "if it gets down to the machete, we will cut them to shreds".[106] Doggart had previously travelled to a site in Dover, Tennessee, which had been described as a "jihadist training camp", in chain emails and found that the claims were wrong. In April, Doggart accepted a plea bargain and stated that he had "willfully and knowingly sent a message in interstate commerce containing a true threat" to injure someone. The plea bargain was struck down by a judge because it did not contain enough facts to constitute a true threat.[107][108] Doggart, who describes himself as a Christian minister in the "Christian National (Congregational) Church" (apparently the National Association of Congregational Christian Churches).[109] None of the charges against him are terrorism related, however, some groups have described his actions as such.[110][111][112][113]

    According to University of Auckland Professor Douglas Pratt, who is an international expert in religious terrorism, the Christchurch mosque shootings which killed 51 people and injured 50 more (primarily Muslims) at Al Noor Mosque and Linwood Islamic Centre in Christchurch, New Zealand were a form of "Christian terrorism" and white supremacy. Australia-born Christchurch shooter Brenton Harrison Tarrant's manifesto The Great Replacement named after the French far-right theory of the same name quoted Pope Urban II (who ordered The First Crusade) and his speech demanding the retaking of Jerusalem, the death of 11-year-old Swedish girl Ebba Akerlund, NATO involvement in Kosovo, a desire to retake Istanbul (aka Constantinople) from Turkey to have in Christian hands and the motives listed was in his own words revenge against Islam. The shooter's rifles were covered with white supremacist symbols and names of various historical figures and battles between Muslims and non-Muslims such as Charles Martel and Skanderbeg as well as the Battle of Tours in 732 and Battle of Vienna in 1683.[114][115][116][117]

    The perpetrator of the Pittsburgh Tree of Life synagogue shooting Robert Bowers cited a Bible quote about Jesus Christ on the bio of his now defunct Gab account.[118] Similarly the Poway synagogue shooting suspect John T. Earnest also used Bible quotes to justify the attack and had burned down a mosque in Escondido, California earlier in March 2019.[
    So the mentally ill claim it was a christian thing and you believe them HAHAHAHAHA

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trumpet View Post
    The KKK consider themselves to be devout Christians.

    They were democrats and had nothing to do with being Christian

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