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    Quote Originally Posted by ZappasGuitar View Post
    The proof is right here:

    The President: Well it's very nice of you to say that. I will say that we do a lot for Ukraine. We spend a lot of effort and a lot. of time. Much more than the European countries are doing and they should be helping you more than they are. Germany does almost nothing for you. All they do is talk and I think it's something that you should really ask them about. When I was speaking to Angela Merkel she talks Ukraine, but she doesn't do anything. A lot of the European countries are the same way so I think it's something you want to look at but the United States has been very, very good to Ukraine. I wouldn't say that it's reciprocal necessarily because things are happening that are not good but the United States has been very very good to Ukraine.

    President Zelenskyy: Yes you are absolutely right. Not only 100%, but actually 1000% and I can tell you the following; I did talk to Angela Merkel and I did meet with her. I also met and talked with Macron and I told them that they are not doing quite as much as they need to be doing on the issues with the sanctions. They are not enforcing the sanctions. They are not working as much as they should work for Ukraine. It turns out that even though logically, the European Union should be our biggest partner but technically the United States is a much bigger partner than the European Union and I'm very grateful to you for that because the United States is doing quite a lot for Ukraine. Much more than the European Union especially when we are talking about sanctions against the Russian Federation. I would also like to thank you for your great support in the area of defense. We. are ready to continue to cooperate for the next steps. Specifically we are almost ready to buy more Javelins from the United· States for defense purposes .

    The President: I would like you to do us a favor though

    THAT is clear cut evidence of quid pro quo.
    No it isn't; obviously you have issues with honesty as well as reading comprehension.

    I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it.

    If asking a country to investigate corruption is a crime, you willful fools have stooped to an new low and level of ignorance.
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    of course the demogogues, and even the GOP, sees there is no problem asking a foreign entity to get involved in our election process. That requesting a country, even a country antagonistic toward the US, to find dirt on a political opponents to aid in one's election is perfectly acceptable

    So now a clever autocrat, as say Little Rocket Man, could pick sides, decide which candidate would treat him best, and devote his country's resources to getting that candidate elected. And this is perfectly copacetic to the right

    Interesting how the very people that keep telling us they love the Constitution and the individuals who framed it, are approving the very behavior the Founding Fathers warned us against. Telling
    https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/m...estigation.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by reagansghost View Post
    schiff is a liar

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    of course the demogogues, and even the GOP, sees there is no problem asking a foreign entity to get involved in our election process. That requesting a country, even a country antagonistic toward the US, to find dirt on a political opponents to aid in one's election is perfectly acceptable

    So now a clever autocrat, as say Little Rocket Man, could pick sides, decide which candidate would treat him best, and devote his country's resources to getting that candidate elected. And this is perfectly copacetic to the right

    Interesting how the very people that keep telling us they love the Constitution and the individuals who framed it, are approving the very behavior the Founding Fathers warned us against. Telling
    That fake meme has been debunked already. Trump didn't ask anyone to get involved in our election process. Are you seriously suggesting that a sitting president is somehow prohibited from looking into allegations of corruption? Or that a presidential candidate is immune to investigations of past wrongdoing? Seriously?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    So Clinton getting Steele and the Russians to attempt to dig up dirt on Trump was wrong... correct?
    Now another regurgitating the same lame line

    Let's try it again, try to follow, the Clinton campaign hire a law firm who hired PR firm, one previously working for Republicans, who hire a British civilian who used Russians sources to find dirt on Trump

    On the other hand, Trump, using the power of his office, called and just directly asked a foreign Gov't to find dirt on Biden, and you can't see a difference?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Superfreak View Post
    schiff is a liar
    What's more likely?

    That Schiff is a liar, or that the guy who was a reality TV show host conned you into toiling his baggage because you're an idiot?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Truth Detector View Post
    No it isn't; obviously you have issues with honesty as well as reading comprehension.

    I would like you to do us a favor though because our country has been through a lot and Ukraine knows a lot about it. I would like you to find out what happened with this whole situation with Ukraine, they say Crowdstrike ... I guess you have one of your wealthy people. The server, they say Ukraine has it.

    If asking a country to investigate corruption is a crime, you willful fools have stooped to an new low and level of ignorance.
    And then the second half of that "favor" is investigate my chief political rival because of lies I am repeating and who has nothing to do with any of the previous, stop denying facts, it is getting boring, even Trump has moved on to newer deflections

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    Quote Originally Posted by countryboy View Post
    Are you seriously suggesting that a sitting president is somehow prohibited from looking into allegations of corruption?
    So...when will Trump look into the allegations of his own corruption? Or his sons'? Or Ivanka's?
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    Another FOX "special," read the memo, are they asking for the Ukrainian Gov't to open up investigations on Trump, or, requiring answers to questions relevant to their Committee regarding an ongoing investigation into the previous election?

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Now another regurgitating the same lame line

    Let's try it again, try to follow, the Clinton campaign hire a law firm who hired PR firm, one previously working for Republicans, who hire a British civilian who used Russians sources to find dirt on Trump

    On the other hand, Trump, using the power of his office, called and just directly asked a foreign Gov't to find dirt on Biden, and you can't see a difference?
    The PR firm did not use Steele when working with Republicans. Bottom line, because Hillary tried to hide her efforts of using a former British intel officer to did up dirt with Russian intel that is ok. But if she had done so directly it is bad.

    also, quit lying about what Trump said. He asked them to investigate corruption in the 2016 election. You know... the very thing Dems did for the past two years with Mueller.

    Also... the Dem Senators who directly requested the same thing in 2018... does that bother you?

    https://www.foreign.senate.gov/imo/m...estigation.pdf

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Another FOX "special," read the memo, are they asking for the Ukrainian Gov't to open up investigations on Trump, or, requiring answers to questions relevant to their Committee regarding an ongoing investigation into the previous election?
    LMAO... and there you have it. They asked about interference in the previous election... PRECISELY what Trump also did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    And then the second half of that "favor" is investigate my chief political rival because of lies I am repeating and who has nothing to do with any of the previous, stop denying facts, it is getting boring, even Trump has moved on to newer deflections
    There you go lying again. You can't seem to help yourself can you Arsecheese.

    The next statement by Trump included: The other thing, There's a lot of talk about Biden's son, that Biden stopped the prosecution and a lot of people want to find out about that so whatever you can do with the Attorney General would be great. Biden went around bragging that he stopped the prosecution so if you can look into it. It sounds horrible to me.

    Where are the lies Arsecheese; Biden himself is on public video bragging about it? Apparently lying leftists are only okay when THEIR people are corrupting foreign countries right?
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    Quote Originally Posted by LV426 View Post
    So...when will Trump look into the allegations of his own corruption? Or his sons'? Or Ivanka's?
    What corruption would that be? Wasn't a two year, $30 million dollar NOTHING burger enough for you morons?
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    Quote Originally Posted by archives View Post
    Another FOX "special," read the memo, are they asking for the Ukrainian Gov't to open up investigations on Trump, or, requiring answers to questions relevant to their Committee regarding an ongoing investigation into the previous election?
    "When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."


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