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    His tweets have the sour smell of sedition.

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    And Brennan is not just a never-Trumper.

    He’s a well-connected, politically savvy, intelligence official trained in the finer arts of propaganda and upsetting countries’ governments in covert manners.

    His tweets sow seeds of rebellion against this government, and that’s classic textbook sedition.

    John Brennan's not-so-subtle sows of sedition
    By Cheryl K. Chumley
    Thursday, October 3, 2019

    https://www.washingtontimes.com/news...s-of-sedition/

    Democrats covering up for Hillary Clinton has been the biggest game in town going all the way back to her treason when she was Obama’s secretary of state. So you might say the Chicago sewer rat’s CIA Director, John Brennan, is a sideshow even though he was against this country decades before Obama moved him to the top of the intelligence community ladder.

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    Suppose that over the course of a few months, a small band of armed militants has coordinated strategies to distribute firearms and take over the nation's capital by force through a website on the clandestine "deep web." All indications show that the group is dead serious in its intentions, but they're thwarted by an FBI investigation that leads to arrests. While sharing information and discussing ideas -- even distasteful ones -- is generally protected as free speech, the FBI believes this crosses the line. The alleged ringleaders of the plot are charged with "seditious conspiracy" (simply referred to as "sedition"), a federal crime related to treason and other anti-government offenses.

    My point. Nailing Brennan for the lesser crime of sedition amounts to a plea bargain:


    Sedition is a serious felony punishable by fines and up to 20 years in prison
    and it refers to the act of inciting revolt or violence against a lawful authority with the goal of destroying or overthrowing it. The following provides an overview of this particular crime against the government, with historical references.

    Bottom line: Treasonous Conspiracy carries the death penalty.


    Seditious Conspiracy
    and Federal Law: The Basics

    The federal law against seditious conspiracy can be found in Title 18 of the U.S. Code (which includes treason, rebellion, and similar offenses), specifically 18 U.S.C. § 2384. According to the statutory definition of sedition, it is a crime for two or more people within the jurisdiction of the United States:


    ● To conspire to overthrow or destroy by force the government of the United States or to level war against them;
    ● To oppose by force the authority of the United States government; to prevent, hinder, or delay by force the execution of any law of the United States; or
    ● To take, seize, or possess by force any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof.

    Brennan did more than exercise free speech:


    Free Speech, Sedition, and Treason

    In order to get a conviction for seditious conspiracy, the government must prove that the defendant in fact conspired to use force. Simply advocating for the use of force is not the same thing and in most cases is protected as free speech under the First Amendment. For example, two or more people who give public speeches suggesting the need for a total revolution "by any means necessary" have not necessarily conspired to overthrow the government. Rather, they're just sharing their opinions, however unsavory. But actively planning such an action (distributing guns, working out the logistics of an attack, actively opposing lawful authority, etc.) could be considered a seditious conspiracy.

    Brennan’s actions were coordinated with the FBI’s top officials and Hillary Clinton before Trump won the election. In the real world, Inspector Clouseau could hang the lot of them with no more evidence than the Steele Dossier.


    Ultimately, the goal is to prevent threats against the United States while protecting individuals' First Amendment rights, which isn't always such a clear distinction.

    Sedition differs from treason (defined in Article III of the U.S. Constitution) in a fundamental way. While seditious conspiracy is generally defined as conduct or language inciting rebellion against the authority of a state, treason is the more-serious offense of actively levying war against the United States or giving aid to its enemies. Another way of looking at it is that seditious conspiracy often occurs before an act of treason.

    Seditious Conspiracy: Historical Examples

    Many of the more high-profile seditious conspiracy cases won by the U.S. government involve Puerto Rican nationalists plotting to overthrow the U.S. and assert their independence. The first was Pedro Albizu Campos, who (along with nine accomplices) was convicted of sedition in 1937 and jailed for 10 years for attempting to overthrow the government. He and others had been active members of the Nationalist Party, which (according the U.S. prosecutors) was aimed at independence through force. Other, similar cases involving Puerto Rican nationalists followed.

    More recently, in 2010, nine members of a militia group called "the Hutaree" spanning Michigan, Ohio, and Indiana were charged with seditious conspiracy on suspicion of planning an armed conflict against federal, state, and local law enforcement. They were acquitted by a judge in 2012, however, due to insufficient evidence.

    Charged with a Federal Crime? Get in Touch With a Defense Attorney Today

    While sedition is not a commonly charged offense in this country, federal crimes in general are punished quite severely upon conviction. If you're facing seditious conspiracy charges or any other federal charges, you'll want to work with an attorney experienced in federal matters. Get started today by meeting with an experienced criminal defense attorney near you.

    https://criminal.findlaw.com/crimina.../sedition.html
    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    Quote Originally Posted by Flanders View Post
    My point. Nailing Brennan for the lesser crime of sedition amounts to a plea bargain:

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    Bottom line: Treasonous Conspiracy carries the death penalty.


    News flash for all Deep State conspirators: we have a lawfully elected President who is at the top of the Executive Branch of US Government. As such, President Trump represents one third of our constitutionally empowered leadership and is “the US Government.”

    That reality has proven to be an issue for a lot of Deep State players inside the US Government, who from day one of his election or even earlier could not accept the will of their fellow citizens. Sadly, rather than focusing on changing administrations in our four-year cycle of peaceful revolution at the ballot box, many have engaged in violating the law through a conspiracy to remove President Trump. They have been using all their power for ill as US Government employees at the Department of Justice and FBI, and aided and abetted by senior members of the Intelligence Community and State and Defense.

    Fortunately for America and most unfortunately for some conspirators, some not yet charged, and all bad actors who thought they are getting away with criminal behavior, there is a statute in the US Code that allows reach-back to undo corrupt “plea bargains” or the previous “waking” of individuals with minor offensives who did commit a crime but for whatever flimsy reason were not fully prosecuted.

    It is called Seditious Conspiracy and found in US Code 2384:

    If two or more persons in any State or Territory, or in any place subject to the jurisdiction of the United States, conspire to overthrow, put down, or to destroy by force the Government of the United States, or to levy war against them, or to oppose by force the authority thereof, or by force to prevent, hinder, or delay the execution of any law of the United States, or by force to seize, take, or possess any property of the United States contrary to the authority thereof, they shall each be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than twenty years, or both.


    In a very practical sense, if proven corrupt, leaders of DOJ and FBI conspired to use the subterfuge of a legal maneuver to mitigate down significant corrupt behavior by others in their conspiracy prosecutors may use Seditious conspiracy to allow the “plea bargains” of some or “taking a pass” for others to be readdressed.

    With the coming AG Barr- and US Attorney Durham-initiated legal tsunami ready to wash in against all that were part of this historic silent coup, it would now be possible to bring additional charges against those bad actors that previously thought they were beyond real criminal penalties because the fix was in.

    It is about to get very interesting, and as an original member of Trump Nation, it will be interesting to see how many very cleaver but morally and legally blind individuals who betrayed their oath of office are brought to justice.

    In one very specific case of an unexplained “plea bargain” captures how it all worked by conspirators shielding conspirators. Having James Clapper, a man who lied to Congress, asking a federal judge to go easy on a person apparently leaking and lying that he worked directly with throughout his career, is a heaping helping of irony.


    Three current or former leaders of the Senate Intelligence Committee are urging that one of the panel’s former aides escape prison time for lying amid an investigation into leaks related to the ongoing probe of the Trump campaign and possible collusion with Russia.

    Senate Intelligence Chairman Richard Burr (R-N.C.), Vice Chairman Mark Warner (D-Va.) and former Chairman Dianne Feinstein (D-Calif.) are encouraging a federal judge not to put the committee’s former security director, James Wolfe, behind bars for a series of false statements he admitted giving to the FBI during the leak investigation.

    In addition to the message from the senators, Wolfe received letters of support from other high-profile individuals who interacted with him during his decades at the intelligence panel, including former Director of National Intelligence James Clapper and former White House Chief of Staff Denis McDonough.

    In a handwritten letter to the judge, Clapper praised Wolfe and recommended he face “minimal confinement.”

    Wolfe “was very conscientious about protecting classified information and the physical security of the [intelligence committee] hearing rooms and environs. I found him to be honest, forthright, ethical and helpful,” the former DNI wrote.


    October 22, 2019
    Laws against seditious conspiracy have real legal teeth
    By Ed Timperlake

    https://www.americanthinker.com/blog...gal_teeth.html

    Give them a choice.




    NOTE: No smoking in a federal facility.

    The basic test of freedom is perhaps less in what we are free to do than in what we are free not to do. It is the freedom to refrain, withdraw and abstain which makes a totalitarian regime impossible. Eric Hoffer

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    I would love to see Brennan’s commie ass swinging from the gallows after being convicted of treason. He won’t, but I would love it

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