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    Quote Originally Posted by CFM View Post
    It's sad that the one you lefties consider the most qualified to ever run got her ass kicked by an unqualified black and someone you consider an idiot.

    No spinning involved. The Constitution clearly states how a President is elected. Not one word mentions overall popular vote does it.

    The truth is 304 - 227 is all you need to know. What all that means is 34 more electors than needed to win, as outlined in the Constitution, voted for Trump.
    The Democratics hate the fact that we have a republican form of government.

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    Repugs want a dictator and Trump is pleased to provide it. Trump ignores the laws and reds like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dark Soul View Post
    The Democratics hate the fact that we have a republican form of government.
    Anyone that supports socialism does.
    Last edited by CFM; 10-16-2019 at 11:27 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Repugs want a dictator and Trump is pleased to provide it. Trump ignores the laws and reds like it.
    What laws has he ignored? Be specific.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Repugs want a dictator and Trump is pleased to provide it. Trump ignores the laws and reds like it.
    Trump is not a dictator, nor has he violated any part of the Constitution.

    Your problem is that you don't seem to know what an emolument is, what powers the President is given, or what powers Congress has. You also just believe the fake shit put out by Pelosi and Schiff. You have a case of TDS real bad.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Trump is not a dictator, nor has he violated any part of the Constitution.

    Your problem is that you don't seem to know what an emolument is, what powers the President is given, or what powers Congress has. You also just believe the fake shit put out by Pelosi and Schiff. You have a case of TDS real bad.
    In spirit all of it. In fact the emolument clause. He has also threated the separation of powers. He has tried to take over the courts and the FBI. You do not know what the emolument clause is nor why it was written.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    In spirit all of it. In fact the emolument clause. He has also threated the separation of powers. He has tried to take over the courts and the FBI. You do not know what the emolument clause is nor why it was written.
    I do know what an emolument is. You don't. Trump is not a dictator, nor has he violated any part of the Constitution. He has not taken over the courts. He already is in charge of the FBI. That's a department of the President, dumbass.

    Your problem is that you don't seem to know what an emolument is, what powers the President is given, or what powers Congress has. You also just believe the fake shit put out by Pelosi and Schiff. You have a case of TDS real bad.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    I do know what an emolument is. You don't. Trump is not a dictator, nor has he violated any part of the Constitution. He has not taken over the courts. He already is in charge of the FBI. That's a department of the President, dumbass.

    Your problem is that you don't seem to know what an emolument is, what powers the President is given, or what powers Congress has. You also just believe the fake shit put out by Pelosi and Schiff. You have a case of TDS real bad.
    Emolument is a payment or gift. I had to tell you because rightys define things away. The founders did not want the president able to accept emoluments because it is a corrupting influence that could hurt the American experiment. It would make the people question whether a president is working for America or the gift giver. That is exactly where we are now. Trump is acting for foreign nations and his own bankroll. You are proving you do not know what emoluments are because it has been front-page news for a long time. That is because Trump is breaking the law and ignoring the Constitution.
    Stop with the TDS and actually bring something. Childish name-calling works on Fox, but not in debates.
    So you are ignorant of who heads the FBI too. The president nominates someone to head the FBI. That person runs it. The president does not run the departments but merely nominates heads. The Senate approves them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Emolument is a payment or gift.
    Nope. Try again.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    I had to tell you because rightys define things away.
    inversion fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The founders did not want the president able to accept emoluments because it is a corrupting influence that could hurt the American experiment.
    And Trump hasn't accepted any.
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    That is exactly where we are now.
    Nope. It is where Biden and Obama is now.
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    Trump is acting for foreign nations
    Nope.
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    and his own bankroll.
    Nope. He donates his salary.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    You are proving you do not know what emoluments are because it has been front-page news for a long time.
    The newspapers do not define 'emoluments', the law, or the Constitution.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    That is because Trump is breaking the law and ignoring the Constitution.
    Nope. You simply don't know what 'emoluments' means.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Stop with the TDS and actually bring something.
    Inversion fallacy.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Childish name-calling works on Fox, but not in debates.
    Inversion fallacy.
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    So you are ignorant of who heads the FBI too.
    The President.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The president nominates someone to head the FBI.
    Yup.
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    That person runs it.
    Yup. For the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    The president does not run the departments but merely nominates heads.
    The President chooses the nominee, and can fire them for any purpose at any time. The President runs the FBI. It is part of his job. See Article II of the Constitution of the United States.

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    it's like shooting fish in a barrel sometimes....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Into the Night View Post
    Nope. Try again.

    inversion fallacy.

    And Trump hasn't accepted any.

    Nope. It is where Biden and Obama is now.

    Nope.

    Nope. He donates his salary.

    The newspapers do not define 'emoluments', the law, or the Constitution.

    Nope. You simply don't know what 'emoluments' means.

    Inversion fallacy.

    Inversion fallacy.

    The President.

    Yup.

    Yup. For the President.

    The President chooses the nominee, and can fire them for any purpose at any time. The President runs the FBI. It is part of his job. See Article II of the Constitution of the United States.
    No he does not run the FBI or CIA or Energy or Education. or the other bureaus or agencies. He appoints someone who does. Those people are supposed to be vetted, but we know Trump eschews vetting. However once a person is appointed the prez can fire them.That is not running them. Wray is running the FBI.
    Can you imagine if Trump, as lazy as he is, actually tried to run a department? And you are ignorant enough to believe he runs them all.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    No he does not run the FBI or CIA or Energy or Education. or the other bureaus or agencies. He appoints someone who does. Those people are supposed to be vetted, but we know Trump eschews vetting. However once a person is appointed the prez can fire them.That is not running them. Wray is running the FBI.
    Can you imagine if Trump, as lazy as he is, actually tried to run a department? And you are ignorant enough to believe he runs them all.
    you're an idiot.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AssHatZombie View Post
    you're an idiot.
    Well, Ass you certainly fleshed out that argument in your own inimitable fashion. Insult and flee congratulating yourself on another fine argument. The president does not run departments. He actually nominates a person to run the dept. That person runs the department day in and day out. I understand why you are unable to understand management levels and strata. I suppose you believe Trump runs the IRS office in Detroit. An office he does not even know exists. But he is king of America, so because he has the power to fire the head, that means he is running it all.
    Do you think about things at all? It is obvious Into the Dark does not. He has mastered saying nope.

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    Into the Dark does not understand the difference between having the ability to fire a department head is not the same thing as running the department. When that glaring difference is beyond him, that makes his posting a waste of time.
    Emoluments ..Federal officers are prohibited from receiving any gift, payment or another thing of value from a foreign state, its rulers or its representatives.
    Into The Dark Right Wing Hole is as usual wrong.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    No he does not run the FBI or CIA or Energy or Education. or the other bureaus or agencies.
    Yes he does.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    He appoints someone who does.
    That's right.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Those people are supposed to be vetted,
    They are.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    but we know Trump eschews vetting.
    No he does not. That would be you.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    However once a person is appointed the prez can fire them.That is not running them.
    That is running them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Wray is running the FBI.
    Under the authority of the President.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    Can you imagine if Trump, as lazy as he is, actually tried to run a department?
    He does. He has authority over all of them.
    Quote Originally Posted by Gonzomin View Post
    And you are ignorant enough to believe he runs them all.
    Not a belief. See Article II of the Constitution of the United States.

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