USFREEDOM911 (09-27-2019)
"At some point in 2019 (if not sooner) a Republican Senator may walk into the Oval Office and say to President Trump: "Mr. President, we don't have the votes," at which point the Trump presidency will end in a resignation or a conviction in the Senate.
This scenario actually occurred forty-three years ago this summer when Republican Senator Barry Goldwater walked into the Oval Office and told Republican President Richard Nixon that they didn't have the votes in the Senate to save his presidency.
Following impeachment in the House, a trial takes place in the Senate. Conviction requires two-thirds of the Senate and by my count there are already twelve senators who have shown a willingness to take on the president when they believe he is in the wrong.
If you add that to the forty-eight Democrats in the Senate (who have shown no inclination to work with this President), Donald Trump could be six votes away from conviction in the Senate."
Opinion: Trump Is Just Six Senate Votes Away From Impeachment | Elaine C. Kamarck On 8/17/17 at 9:04 AM EDT
FYI This article is 2 years old. Some of the seats have changed since this was written. I have searched a bit and I am not finding what I am looking for.
I would like to identify potential Senate votes for conviction. Shall we take some wild guesses? Well, we could probably make some educated ones, anyway.
Let's devote this thread to learning about just where the loyalties lie for those 53 Republican Senators, shall we? Party or Country. Who might actually vote to convict, and who can we say no way never would vote to convict no matter what. Let's divide them up, stick em in columns.
I wonder how close we can come to guessing properly?
List of US Senators with links to info on each - wiki
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OK, I'm figuring Lindsay Graham and Rick Scott would never convict.
No:
Lindsay Graham
Rick Scott
Possible Yes Vote to convict:
Yes:
Mitt Romney
Burr
Susan Collins
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Althea (10-10-2019), Guno צְבִי (10-06-2019)
It's a work in progress.
Here's what I've got so far:
NO:
Graham
Scott
YES:
Romney
Burr
Collins
Lee
Cruz
Murkowski
McSally
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Guno צְבִי (10-06-2019)
Obviously, I'm looking for yes votes...
Feel free to fill in the No's if you like...
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"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
"When government fears the people, there is liberty. When the people fear the government, there is tyranny."
A lie doesn't become the truth, wrong doesn't become right, and evil doesn't become good just because it is accepted by a majority.
Author: Booker T. Washington
Guno צְבִי (10-06-2019)
Hello Gonzomin,
Wow. You think Lindsey might convict? Well, he has flipped before. He did strongly oppose Trump during the campaign. OK, Let's take him out of the no column.
We need a maybe column, too.
So now we have:
NO:
Scott
YES:
Romney
Burr
Collins
Lee
Cruz
Murkowski
McSally
MAYBE:
Graham
Shelby
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Guno צְבִי (10-06-2019)
desperate demmycrats are so sad......
Isaiah 6:5
“Woe to me!” I cried. “I am ruined! For I am a man of unclean lips, and I live among a people of unclean lips, and my eyes have seen the King, the Lord Almighty.”
Gonzomin (09-27-2019)
NO:
Scott
YES:
Romney
Burr
Collins
Lee
Cruz
Murkowski
McSally
Gardner
Rubio
MAYBE:
Graham
Shelby
Crapo
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Guno צְבִי (10-06-2019)
Trump doesn't care if the vote to impeach. The resultant trial in the Senate will expose the Deep State players, and then he wins.
I don't see a scenario where the 'rats win on this. They obviously never thought it through.
Maybe Trump set it all up for them to destroy themselves this way.
NO:
Scott
Braun
Grassley
YES:
Romney
Burr
Collins
Lee
Cruz
Murkowski
McSally
Gardner
Rubio
Young
Ernst
MAYBE:
Graham
Shelby
Crapo
Last edited by PoliTalker; 09-26-2019 at 04:06 PM.
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Un fucking believable! We just went through 2 years of investigating this asshole for colluding with a foreign power to help himself get elected with no proof he didn't. Now he asks another foreign power if he would do him a favor and manufacture an investigation into the guy he may well be running against now. If that isn't colluding with a foreign power to help yourself win an election what the fuck is? But before he makes the call he holds up that 400 million in aid they need to fight the Russians? Just get in touch with my personal attorney? The whistleblower who is dead on accurate to the text of the call but he is a spy or traitor and should be dealt like we used to? We executed them. It is downright comical how the trump supporter can still sit there and speak as though this corrupt shithead has done nothing wrong.
Yeah I think some more republican senators are going to come around.
Iolo/Penderyn (09-27-2019), ThatOwlWoman (09-26-2019)
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